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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:37 am to somethingdifferent
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:37 am to somethingdifferent
Calling something a fact doesn’t make it so. Good try.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:If you'd like to take a trip there, I'll gladly pay for the trip there. You gotta stay for 12 months minimum and live among the regular population. No staying in elitist hotels. I'll buy a oneway ticket to Iran and if needed then buy a oneway ticket back to Alaska. You can report back what you find about your beloved "persians".
According to MiC propaganda, sure.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:40 am to somethingdifferent
I’ll make this simple:
It’s easier to keep the tiger in the cage and punish it when it tries to get out of the cage than it is to go in the cage and try to teach the tiger new tricks. That is how one gets eaten.
It’s easier to keep the tiger in the cage and punish it when it tries to get out of the cage than it is to go in the cage and try to teach the tiger new tricks. That is how one gets eaten.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 10:42 am
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:41 am to Pandy Fackler
quote:No it isn't. It has NOTHING to do with the nature of Islamic terrorism
What I think about Israel is very relevant
quote:This is a stupid statement. Israel has never been an agressor. They don't attack civilians on purpose. They don't constantly claim that are trying to eradicate a sworn enemy even though said sworn enemy attacks them constantly
They're the only nuclear power in the region and they have zero interest in decreasing nuclear tensions
And even if what you said is true, that doesn't change the nature of Islamic, fundamentalist terrorism
quote:Are they a state sponsor of terrorism? Not that I am aware of. It would be counterproductive to their goals. They also support the American way of life economically in some ways. We are economically intertwined with them and our values align with them in some ways. It is a complicated relationship.
It's time now to attack and invade China. They're the last great enemy of the United States and have taken steps to subvert our way of life now for decades
Our relationship with Islamic terrorism is not complicated or nuanced. It is extremely simple. Any nations that sponsor those entities need to be addressed with impunity
quote:I addressed this in the OP
we know this because you've made the exact same argument for war against Iran that you've made against Iraq
quote:If you truly believe this, then you are not only naive and uneducated but you can't be reasoned with on this topic
In my lifetime, not one single American serviceman has died to protect my right to "speak out against foreign conflict". Not one
quote:False dichotomy
Now plenty have died to improve the profit margins of defense contractors
quote:Completely, totally false and this has nothing to do with Islamic terrorism
none have died for my freedoms
quote:Strawman
You're getting your war
quote:wrong
you've got alot of opinion in all that
quote:That doesn't mean it's false
you've made the exact same argument Israel and the Bush administration made for war after 9/11
Then you admit that we have enemies thus agreeing with the OP but use a horrible analogy in an attempt to break the current situation with Iran
So you bowed up thinking you were taking down the OP and didn't address the fact in the OP. Good job
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:41 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
Do we see frequent, direct evidence of their terrorist activities threatening our way of life? No.
I'm not seeing frequent terrorist activities threatening our way of life from Iran either
Israel does but that's not our problem
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:41 am to RollTide4547
quote:
If you'd like to take a trip there, I'll gladly pay for the trip there. You gotta stay for 12 months minimum and live among the regular population. No staying in elitist hotels. I'll buy a oneway ticket to Iran and if needed then buy a oneway ticket back to Alaska. You can report back what you find about your beloved "persians".
This is utterly retarded.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:So your answer is no you don't want to go on a free trip to live with your beloved "persians".. Hmmm
This is utterly retarded.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:42 am to wareaglepete
quote:
Why do we have to intervene? Why can’t Israel handle business?
Because Israel wants regime change and I'm not sure you can do that without subduing a population. You have to have troops for that. Well not only would the Iranian people not tolerate a Jewish military invasion, but the entirety of the Muslim world wouldn't tolerate it either. Not one single Israeli boot (that we know of) will be on Iranian sand.
That's where the United States comes in.
Israel didn't attack Iran "hoping" the United States would help. They attacked Iran knowing the United States would help.
Israel will get what it wants. The OP can breathe easy, he and his like will get what they want as well.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:43 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
"We had this horrific, unprecedented attack that killed thousands of Americans in America but, it was a couple of decades ago so, we definitely can let our guard down"
I didn't say let our guard down
But I know this much. I don't go to sleep every night in fear that Iran is going to kill me.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:44 am to DownSouthJukin
quote:
It’s easier to keep the tiger in the cage and punish it when it tries to get out of the cage than it is to go in the cage and try to teach the tiger new tricks. That is how one gets eaten.
We aren't Iran's neighbor or even in their region. That's Israel's problem not ours. Its not hard to understand. Same can be said for Russia and Ukraine. Russia is Europe's problem not ours.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:45 am to somethingdifferent
How much stock you have in lockheed martin and raytheon?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:45 am to Pandy Fackler
OP wasn’t crying for war two weeks ago. Got woke up when his jew masters told him what he had to do.
Yells about American freedom while running around in Jewish chains. Ironic.
Yells about American freedom while running around in Jewish chains. Ironic.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 10:47 am
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:46 am to Pandy Fackler
quote:
Because Israel wants regime change and I'm not sure you can do that without subduing a population. You have to have troops for that. Well not only would the Iranian people not tolerate a Jewish military invasion, but the entirety of the Muslim world wouldn't tolerate it either. Not one single Israeli boot (that we know of) will be on Iranian sand.
That's where the United States comes in.
This is where I see us getting involved eventually as well
quote:
Israel didn't attack Iran "hoping" the United States would help. They attacked Iran knowing the United States would help.
Correct
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:47 am to RollTide4547
quote:
So your answer is no you don't want to go on a free trip to live with your beloved "persians".. Hmmm
Youve gotta be a woman
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:47 am to Powerman
quote:And you shouldn't.... there is no reason to.
I didn't say let our guard down
But I know this much. I don't go to sleep every night in fear that Iran is going to kill me.
I would say the Israeli's have presented us with a golden opportunity.
They MAY pull it off all on their own. We just need to not get in their way.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:47 am to Powerman
Reading the tea leaves, I'm less confident we're going to be directly involved today than yesterday, and much less confident we're going to be involved in anything that would directly lead to regime change.
But who knows.
But who knows.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:47 am to wareaglepete
quote:All this hatred for the Jews, when you're much more likely to be harmed by a 13%'er.
jew masters
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:48 am to somethingdifferent
Do you work for the military industrial complex?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:You liberals can define a what woman is now?
Youve gotta be a woman
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:50 am to somethingdifferent
Man you're really defensive for a guy who's gonna get the war he wants. President Trump, Israel, The MIC and every politician in Washington funded by both agree with you.
We're going to war man. It's all good. Just take it easy homeboy. You've made a solid 22 year old argument for another Middle Eastern corporate war. It worked then, it works now.
We're going to war man. It's all good. Just take it easy homeboy. You've made a solid 22 year old argument for another Middle Eastern corporate war. It worked then, it works now.
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