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re: The Law by Frédéric Bastiat
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:22 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:22 am to 4cubbies
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I’m looking for a compelling argument that justifies their origination beyond ego and “why shouldn’t I get to determine who gets or what happens to my stuff when I die?” which is ultimately just ego anyway
Decreasing societal conflict
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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You can post a false story as many times as you want.
So the official explanation is denial that it ever happend.
O.k., that's the answer to my question.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 8:23 am
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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Really smart people think I'm really smart.
OK I believe you. For sure.
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Dumb people are the ones who think I'm not smart.
It's the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
This was actually pretty funny, props for that.
In your defense, some of the smartest people I know spend all day on right-wing political forums on sports message boards, arguing about the relationship between laws, rights, and religion with a bunch of Fundamentalist Christians from the Deep South. :lol
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You picked the wrong thread for this strawman
As for your "strawman" comment, it was actually a genuine question. I’m just fascinated by bizarre behavior. I wouldn’t have posted here otherwise because I don’t find the actual topic all that interesting.
What I do find interesting is why a really, really, really super smart adult would enjoy spending all day arguing with 5th graders about whether they should have homework on Fridays. I genuinely want an answer to that, and honestly, the psychology behind it is infinitely more interesting than the thread topic itself.
Let me know if there’s a better thread for me to ask these types of behavioral questions, because I know I'm definitely not the only one here who has wondered the exact same thing.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 8:29 am
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:30 am to 4cubbies
quote:Perfect. Put some thoughts together, and we'll discuss it.
What you are saying make sense but it also kind of contradicts common sense. Maybe I need to think more about this before trying to articulate anything.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:32 am to 4cubbies
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I’m looking for a compelling argument that justifies their origination beyond ego and “why shouldn’t I get to determine who gets or what happens to my stuff when I die?” which is ultimately just ego anyway
There's the argument right there.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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Decreasing societal conflict
The best way to do this would be to bury everyone’s stuff with them.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:49 am to wackatimesthree
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So the official explanation is denial that it ever happend.
Considering it didn't happen, yes. What would be the proper rational response to that that why?
Ignoring the fact that dozens of people have met me from the site and the fact that several people have met cubbies from this site... and that both cubbies and I are married to other people... ignoring all of that....the admins would not delete those posts.
Nothing about your story makes sense AND you e conveniently crafted it in a way where you can never defend it.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 8:49 am
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Right.
Decreasing societal conflict
Simplistically put, an early caveman's "personal rights" existed only to the extent he could personally protect them. If one valued the possessions of another, he could snatch them if he was physically capable, much to the detriment of the weaker individual.
But man was a pack hunter. As profited the pack, so profited its individuals. Successful tribes would limit individual confiscation (thereby decreasing societal conflict) insofar as survival of the group depended to an extent on the wellbeing of all members.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:52 am to 818 Tiger
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In your defense, some of the smartest people I know spend all day on right-wing political forums on sports message boards, arguing about the relationship between laws, rights, and religion with a bunch of Fundamentalist Christians from the Deep South. :lol
It’s pretty obvious he’s just looking for mental stimulation. Why is arguing with people here better or worse than doing a crossword puzzle?
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Let me know if there’s a better thread for me to ask these types of behavioral questions
Here’s a behavioral question for you: why do you feel offended or outraged or whatever about how he chooses to spend his time — which, ironically, the same way you are choosing to spend your time at this very moment. Riddle me that.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:54 am to 4cubbies
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I’m looking for a compelling argument that justifies their origination beyond ego and “why shouldn’t I get to determine who gets or what happens to my stuff when I die?”
The core answer IMO is that it’s an individual’s work product that we’re discussing and who should have a claim over that work product other than the individual?
You may think it’s ego for an individual to direct what happens to it after they pass but I would argue it’s greed and envy for any other individual or group to want the fruits of somebody else’s labor.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:55 am to 4cubbies
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The best way to do this would be to bury everyone’s stuff with them.
Nah, just jail the people too greedy to function in modern society. Or just shoot them, cheaper that way.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 8:56 am
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:56 am to wackatimesthree
quote:FWIW, I can tell you with 100% assuredness that 4cubbies is not an SFP alter ...
So the official explanation is denial that it ever happend.
... and Paul is not dead, no matter what Beatles records may say when they are played backwards.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:57 am to 4cubbies
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It’s pretty obvious he’s just looking for mental stimulation. Why is arguing with people here better or worse than doing a crossword puzzle?
Can’t speak for SFP but I for one just enjoy debating or shitposting on random issues with a similar yet somewhat diverse group of people on an anonymous message board.
Sure it’s a huge waste of time but it’s also stimulating in some weird way.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 9:04 am to SquatchDawg
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The core answer IMO is that it’s an individual’s work product that we’re discussing and who should have a claim over that work product other than the individual?
No. I think that's the source of a lot of the frustration from participants. For the sake of this discussion -- I don't care who else "should" get your stuff when you die. Why would someone's desires for their things matter once they no longer exist? I understand we have laws that dictate succession and inheritance. I'm not suggesting any policy changes or anything like that. I'm wondering if there's an actual transcendent justification for these beyond human vices.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 9:07 am to NC_Tigah
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... and Paul is not dead, no matter what Beatles records may say when they are played backwards.
I saw him play in New Orleans in October with my mom. He was very much alive and insanely talented.
I think there's one active poster who has physically met both me and SFP. On separate occasions obv.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 9:09 am to 4cubbies
quote:I may have met both of you
I think there's one active poster who has physically met both me and SFP. On separate occasions obv.
ETA or maybe my brain is misremembering
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 9:11 am
Posted on 6/24/26 at 9:11 am to 4cubbies
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The best way to do this would be to bury everyone’s stuff with them.
Ah yes, the pharaoh model. Remind me what happened to the vast majority of tombs?
Why do you want more criminal behavior?
Posted on 6/24/26 at 9:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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Really smart people think I'm really smart.
if you have to keep saying this, odds are its not true
Posted on 6/24/26 at 9:12 am to 4cubbies
Who killed Trayvon and Sandra?
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Riddle me that
Posted on 6/24/26 at 9:16 am to 4cubbies
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The best way to do this would be to bury everyone’s stuff with them.
A. Then there would be conflict with people trying to dig it up
B. Most property isn't tactile these days
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