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Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:48 am to timdonaghyswhistle
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Sounds like cubbies got cut out of the will or just descended from a line of poverty.
This whole discussion reads like a backdoor attempt to make the case that it’s not equitable for some people to accumulate more wealth and assets than they “need” and then pass those on to their heirs rather than those assets being used for the “greater good”.
That’s my take…but I may be wrong.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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Can anyone let me know when the weekly catechism meeting is over? I only came for the coffee and donuts.
Are you unemployed by chance?
Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:51 am to 818 Tiger
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Are you unemployed by chance?
I'm a small business owner
Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:54 am to SquatchDawg
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This whole discussion reads like a backdoor attempt to make the case that it’s not equitable for some people to accumulate more wealth and assets than they “need” and then pass those on to their heirs rather than those assets being used for the “greater good”.
That’s my take…but I may be wrong.
I think it's more basic than that. She just wants everyone to admit that property rights are made up in a societal construct. Which they largely are, but she also seems to be fighting why, even if they are made up in a societal construct, they are very important to the way that we are currently existing.
It's following the same pattern of advancement that I described earlier, but the leftists have gotten to a point where they think that if they can use their own flowery language to describe property rights, that society will continue to function properly without those property rights. It's a classic logical leap that you see with leftism that ignores the reality and underlying basis for why these social constructs are formed. They think that they can just label them a social construct and then pretend that we could just remove them because they're not real, which ignores why the social construct was created in the first place and how it impacts our standard of living and the state/advancement of society today.
*ETA: that's why countering this with an alternative version of non-impactful flowery language (natural rights) isn't productive or effective, rhetorically. It's just making the same type of argument with its own dismissive construct-label.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 7:22 am
Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Correct, assuming effective deterrence.
It's like, the latter (over time) creates the former
Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:57 am to 4cubbies
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My dad has a much younger wife who I’m sure is going to spend everything he has until her dying breath, which is really none of my business anyway. I’ve always been able to make my own money.
Woah woah, you can only earn money (or use your husband's) because your father gave you the privilege of White Privilege.
But seriously you aren’t getting a dollar from his estate, thats how second wives work. I know several people who never got anything even when it was in the will.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:01 am to SquatchDawg
quote:No, you're probably right. The premise ties to the classical Marxist holding: "From each according to his ability. To each according to his need." It's simply couched in different terms here.
That’s my take…but I may be wrong.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:05 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:God's word existed before the universe was created
The Bible didn't exist when Sumer existed, and their laws were not based in Judaism, which wouldn't exist for thousands of years
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:06 am to UtahCajun
quote:see above
No dude. Earliest laws predate the Bible.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Do you work with really smart people who make you feel dumb, so you log in here to argue with morons all day, so you feel smarter, and feel better about yourself?
I really don’t see any other benefit for you since you disagree with pretty much everything, and I don’t imagine you as the kind of guy to ever be like, “hmm, never saw it that way, thanks” no matter how wrong you are. I can imagine it’s held you back quite a bit in life.
Just curious. You’d probably be better off signing out for a while, and going to therapy a few times a week. I’m actually not trying to be mean here.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:09 am to faraway
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God's word existed before the universe was created
Feel free to show me the evidence that Sumer had any idea of the existence of the current Bible or Judaism.
Even assuming your statement to be correct. Sumer didn't seem to be aware of "God's word" when they formed their society, laws, etc.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:11 am to 818 Tiger
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Do you work with really smart people who make you feel dumb
No
Really smart people think I'm really smart. Since I've largely had a friend group of those types since age 4-5, why would I conceptualize myself as dumb given that paradigm?
Dumb people are the ones who think I'm not smart.
It's the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
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I really don’t see any other benefit for you since you disagree with pretty much everything, and I don’t imagine you as the kind of guy to ever be like, “hmm, never saw it that way, thanks” no matter how wrong you are. I can imagine it’s held you back quite a bit in life.
Just curious. You’d probably be better off signing out for a while, and going to therapy a few times a week. I’m actually not trying to be mean here.
You picked the wrong thread for this strawman.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:32 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Imagine there's no countries
She just wants everyone to admit that property rights are made up in a societal construct. Which they largely are, but she also seems to be fighting why, even if they are made up in a societal construct, they are very important to the way that we are currently existing.
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world ...
Then again, irony is ironic ....
John Lennon performs "Imagine" from the Great Room of his Tittenhurst Park mansion in Ascot, England
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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What?
Do you really want me to keep posting it over and over again?
That's what happened, you know it, and your reaction to my question pretty well confirms that it happened.
You sound exactly like someone caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:48 am to wackatimesthree
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Do you really want me to keep posting it over and over again?
You can post a false story as many times as you want. The volume won't change its veracity.
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and your reaction to my question pretty well confirms that it happened.
Is this because I didn't do wut and did "What"?
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You sound exactly like someone caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
By this big-brained standard, nobody who points out a lie said about them can ever defend themself.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:51 am to NC_Tigah
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So then "justice," in the manner which you are using the term, actually pertains not to justice, but rather to a societal response to an injustice
It seems that the existence of a concept (in a meaningful sense) depends on agreement of what that concept is. It’s like language in that it only has meaning if people agree on what it means.
What you are saying make sense but it also kind of contradicts common sense. Maybe I need to think more about this before trying to articulate anything.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:55 am to 4cubbies
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Maybe I need to think more about this
Just re-read what I already wrote
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:10 am to SlowFlowPro
I don’t want everyone to admit anything fwiw. People can think whatever they want.
I’m looking for a compelling argument that justifies their origination beyond ego and “why shouldn’t I get to determine who gets or what happens to my stuff when I die?” which is ultimately just ego anyway
I’m looking for a compelling argument that justifies their origination beyond ego and “why shouldn’t I get to determine who gets or what happens to my stuff when I die?” which is ultimately just ego anyway
Posted on 6/24/26 at 8:15 am to 4cubbies
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why shouldn’t I get to determine who gets or what happens to my stuff when I die?”
Who in your estimation should then get to make that determination if not the owner?
I’ve asked a couple times now and it seems you are avoiding having to answer for some reason?
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