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re: The Law by Frédéric Bastiat

Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:08 pm to
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So is marriage, yet I am married.


You think marriage is a made up concept?

Do you subscribe to anything in your Bible or taught in your church?

Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15642 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:13 pm to
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You think marriage is a made up concept?

Do you subscribe to anything in your Bible or taught in your church?



For realsies
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:14 pm to
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I even bolded the operative word. “Ownership is a made up concept.” - forecubbies, first page of thread So is marriage, yet I am married.


Lady you really need to start being more precise with your words.

Made-up means not real or fabricated.



Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62722 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:15 pm to
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Marriage is a sacrament.


Do you deny the existence of legal marriages? Don you believe only Catholics get married?

Do legal protections provided by marriage only apply to Catholics who get married by priests?

Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15642 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:20 pm to
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Do you deny the existence of legal marriages? Don you believe only Catholics get married?

Do legal protections provided by marriage only apply to Catholics who get married by priests?


What does the Catholic church believe about marriages between two non-baptized persons?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62722 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:21 pm to
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Made-up means not real or fabricated.


I spent my evening at the ballpark watching a bunch of 9 and 10 year old boys play a made up game called baseball. I held a bat. I threw a ball. Yet those things didn’t exist for most of history.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62722 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:22 pm to
I don’t claim marriage only exists for Catholics. You made that claim. Can you defend it?
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15642 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:23 pm to
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I don’t claim marriage only exists for Catholics. You made that claim. Can you defend it?


Natural marriages for $100 please Alex
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62722 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:24 pm to
You said marriage is a sacrament. What happened?
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15642 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:26 pm to
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You said marriage is a sacrament. What happened?


You are a Catholic. You had a sacramental marriage correct?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36811 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:26 pm to

spent my evening at the ballpark watching a bunch of 9 and 10 year old boys play a made up game called baseball. I held a bat. I threw a ball. Yet those things didn’t exist for most of history.

From Webster:

"Made-up" is a versatile phrase that primarily means fabricated or invented, referring to something that is not true or real, like a fictional story. Depending on the context, it can also describe someone wearing facial cosmetics (makeup) or, in UK slang, feeling incredibly happy.


Now please, in the future, be more specific when you are choosing your words. Especially ones that encompass the thrust of your point, regardless of how asinine it is.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15642 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:27 pm to
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You said marriage is a sacrament. What happened?


Is marriage not a Sacrament in Catholicism?
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4132 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:29 pm to
Y'all are arguing with an attention seeking nutjob ...

Let the thread die as it should.

This post was edited on 6/23/26 at 10:31 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62722 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:34 pm to
My marriage has no bearing on whether or not marriage has existed since the dawn of time or even since the earliest humans.

This thread is getting increasingly and needlessly personal.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15642 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:37 pm to
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My marriage has no bearing on whether or not marriage has existed since the dawn of time or even since the earliest humans.


Jesus Christ elevated marriage to a lifelong, sacramental covenant between one man and one woman. He taught that spouses become "one flesh" and declared, "What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder" (Matthew 19:6).

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62722 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:37 pm to
You don’t think money or corporations or government or capitalism or the Constitution is real?


Ok.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36811 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:54 pm to
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You don’t think money or corporations or government or capitalism or the Constitution is real? Ok.


If you have a point please make it.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36811 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:58 pm to
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Y'all are arguing with an attention seeking nutjob ...


I want to send her poor husband a bottle of whiskey and some headphones.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140758 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:39 am to
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Christians don’t even agree that capital punishment is or isn’t justice.
That is more based on definitional multiplicity than on justice itself. For example, for the family of a murder victim, there can be no justice. At least none not including the resurrection of their murdered family member.

So then "justice," in the manner which you are using the term, actually pertains not to justice, but rather to a societal response to an injustice. In that regard, the tension is between Deterrence (generating an observable cost of criminal action) and Restoration (protecting society while keeping the door open for spiritual redemption). Both sides claim to be respondent to the offense; they just disagree on whether a dead offender or an imprisoned offender satisfies that cosmic requirement.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 6:40 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:44 am to
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So then "justice," in the manner which you are using the term, actually pertains not to justice, but rather to a societal response to an injustice.


It's like, the latter (over time) creates the former
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