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re: The hand wringing by some of you over the lack of full Epstein docs is embarrassing.

Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:32 am to
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:32 am to
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Check yourselves for gods sake. There is some serious shite wrong at the FBI that is decades in the making. 


100% TRUTH. Mueller was filthy, Comey was filthy, and even Trump's choice, Chris was filthy. Trump made the mistake of relying on the advice of Swamp Rat Chris Christie for that pick.

Rome wasn't built in a day, and everybody should've understood that the Deep State was never going to disappear in 6 weeks. Hell, that's assuming that MAGA can even ultimately defeat both the Deep State and Globalism., but at least we're back in the fight.

THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES IN REAL LIFE. THIS ISN'T SCRIPTED.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:33 am to
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Not at all. I am saying she requested files and received them. Had them in hand. But the day before she found out there were many many more figures the FBI did not turn over and are refusing to turn over. Now it is clear insubordination with the refusal to obey an order.
She requested documents, read them, went on live TV and stated that they were full of horrendous things, and then went on to release old documents that have been public for years.

So, what documents did she read?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25190 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:36 am to
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If Bondi, Trump, and Kash didn't understand that SDNY was the center point of the most recent Epstein investigation, they're fricking retards.



Ok, that's got nothing to do with you claiming something that's been proven factual is just a bullshite talking point.

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There is some serious shite wrong at the FBI that is decades in the making.

That's obvious to anybody with a pulse. You're so determined to play the contrarian you got out too far over your skis. Again.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:37 am to
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She requested documents, read them, went on live TV and stated that they were full of horrendous things, and then went on to release old documents that have been public for years.

So, what documents did she read?


The documents released in the Florida investigation ( LINK) were hundreds and hundreds of pages. This wasn't even close to the full file, but you can get an idea of what an "FBI file" looks like.

Trying to spin Bondi thinking the minimal, old, and publicly-released bullshite she HAD ON HER DESK was the full case file for SDNY requires a level of intelligence found in most insects.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:38 am to
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that's got nothing to do with you claiming something that's been proven factual is just a bullshite talking point.

It has not been proven yet what, if anything, the FBI in the SDNY withheld, or why the USA in the SDNY (directly under Bondi) didn't have it.

Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
20490 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:39 am to
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level of intelligence found in most insects

Soooo basically the majority of the world.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:39 am to
No one cares they didn’t release the docs. No one with any sense thought they would ever release them

People are mad because Pam Bond lied about it. She said on national television the other night she was releasing things the next day that would have names, flight logs, and sick stuff. But everything released was already in the public, and in fact even less redacted.

So it was entirely a stunt, and no one can figure out why.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132616 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:39 am to
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I agree with your points but it doesn't explain the dog and pony show.


I think Pam looked at Trump and how he leverages the MSM and social media and said, "I can do that". And a complete fail ensued.
Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
1272 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:41 am to
yeah, going bonkers over the news narratives on Bondi & the Epstein files makes one question the credibility of the poster. Some people are easy to distract & get lost in the background noise
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:41 am to
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So it was entirely a stunt

Speaking of stunt, don't forget to include the totally accidental PC with all the MAGA influencers getting their binder with "Phase 1"

Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
20490 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:42 am to
That was a bit staged eh.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
7174 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:42 am to
I can somewhat understand the anger/handwringing/quick pronouncements of failure from some because the bullshite from the Left establishment has gone on for years now without consequence and some folks want some scalps NOW.

That acknowledged, I agree with you and this corruption isn’t going to be done away with the wave of a wand and a month in office. Patience and more importantly, persistence.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60269 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:45 am to
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Cool!!! But, don't lie to me and tell me "I'm keeping my promise! It's right here on my desk! It's really really bad! You deserve to see it! We're handing it out now!"

Exactly, 100% this!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450394 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:45 am to
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That was a bit staged eh.


Or a complete accident, depending on who you ask

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
74893 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:46 am to
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That acknowledged, I agree with you and this corruption isn’t going to be done away with the wave of a wand and a month in office. Patience and more importantly, persistence.
The issue of corruption in the SDNY is a completely separate matter.

This entire fiasco is Bondi’s fault.

She chose to hype the situation up. She chose to say that she has the files on her desk and that she read them. She chose to bring in “influencers”. She chose to release redacted versions of already public information,

She made these decisions and mistakes.

Not the SDNY. Not some FBI agent.

Bondi did those things.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:47 am to
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I think Pam looked at Trump and how he leverages the MSM and social media and said, "I can do that". And a complete fail ensued.


As much as I’d like to be a plan truster, I just can’t wrap my head around it being anything other than a version of this
Posted by moontigr
Washington Commanders/LA Kings Fan
Member since Nov 2020
5889 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:49 am to
Shouldn'd have tased it to the American public until they had all their ducks in a row. They set themselves up for failure by doing this.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
7174 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:53 am to
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The issue of corruption in the SDNY is a completely separate matter. This entire fiasco is Bondi’s fault. She chose to hype the situation up. She chose to say that she has the files on her desk and that she read them. She chose to bring in “influencers”. She chose to release redacted versions of already public information, She made these decisions and mistakes. Not the SDNY. Not some FBI agent. Bondi did those things.


Yep, I agree and commented in a separate thread yesterday this was a very unnecessary and unforced error.

At the same time, I’ll probably diverge from others and withhold making any final proclamations and instead hold off to see what happens in these coming days.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2565 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:54 am to
Why is it embarrassing? It was a fail by Bondi and therefore, this administration. Doesn't mean I'm writing the Trump admin off... but it was a fail.I'm not such a Trump fanboy that I won't call out any of his fails if/when he has them. Any American who doesn't care about that list and exposing the pedos and corrupt pieces of shite involved, is an embarrassment IMO.

frick you.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1335 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:55 am to
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No one cares they didn’t release the docs. No one with any sense thought they would ever release them

People are mad because Pam Bond lied about it. She said on national television the other night she was releasing things the next day that would have names, flight logs, and sick stuff. But everything released was already in the public, and in fact even less redacted.

So it was entirely a stunt, and no one can figure out why.


Exactly. it is the same ole shite, just a new Administration.

What Bondi has said and done makes no sense. The excuse of the FBI withholding docs makes zero sense. We are being lied to, and while they are lying they are claiming to be so transparent. At a minimum she needs to go in favor of someone who will be honest with us.
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