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The Founding Fathers were right again.

Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:40 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
118402 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:40 am
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
...John Adams - 1798
Posted by ShrimperDan
Fernandina
Member since Jul 2026
484 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:42 am to
They also didn't think everyone should vote, or that everyone was even smart enough to be trusted to vote. Another W take by the founders.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
126872 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:43 am to
They also wouldn’t have supported perpetual involvement in the Middle East
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 7:43 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
69848 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:43 am to
Yep. We're pretty screwed. We are a nation of stupid people who have rejected our founding principles and imported incompatible belief systems via people who want nothing more than to destroy our freedoms and bear no allegiance to the country that welcomed them.

We are Rome.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
126872 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:45 am to
You act as if the voters just rejected some small government conservatives. Trump was doing nothing to slow down our reckless spending or foolish foreign policy.
Posted by roletiddies
Monkeytown
Member since Nov 2026
26 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:46 am to
Now do his words in the Treaty of Tripoli!
just messin
Posted by JohnnyMackBrown
Member since Nov 2026
49 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:47 am to
This is why I realistically dont see a way forward long term. If we truly acted as a federal system...sure. Alabama and California are like Poland and France. They should not be the same country
Posted by ShrimperDan
Fernandina
Member since Jul 2026
484 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:47 am to
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They also wouldn’t have supported perpetual involvement in the Middle East



They wouldn't have supported perpetual involvement anywhere, but even someone like Jefferson, who was extremely dovish, refused to pay bribes to the barbary pirates which resulted in war very early on in the country's history.

Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
42848 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:49 am to
Yes, they believed that only white male property owners should vote.

If that never changed, we would have gone through multiple violent revolutions since, and none of you bitching today would exist because your ancestors would have been beheaded in one of those revolutions.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
69848 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:49 am to
quote:

You act as if the voters just rejected some small government conservatives. Trump was doing nothing to slow down our reckless spending or foolish foreign policy.


That's exactly what the voters did. Trump had already shrunk the government by 12%. We needed more Republicans to go further than that, not fewer.

Like I said, we are a nation of stupid people.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
126872 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:50 am to
Yet we were still spending as if we weren’t $40 trillion in the hole.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
33137 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:51 am to
quote:

They also wouldn’t have supported perpetual involvement in the Middle East


quote:

or pay ticktok influencers to sway voters.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
126872 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:52 am to
Don’t forget the $5000 handouts if we won
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
69848 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:52 am to
quote:

Yet we were still spending as if we weren’t $40 trillion in the hole.


Again, we need more Republicans to fix this, not fewer.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
126872 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:54 am to
We need conservative republicans. I don’t see many running that aren’t interested in handouts or war. Do you?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55937 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:56 am to
You are a Ms guy. How can you be that blind?

Let's go at it this way. How does a freako and any DSA candidate win in the primaries?

Freako in Tx...etc. how?

Its pretty simple. When a candidate like these are voted for and get on the ticket its a result of what the population has already accepted and agrees with.

Now, why would the Bush Family and the establishment GOP in TX back Freako? Just to punish Trump?

No. Its because they are ok with the things these people promote.

This isnt a Trump Issue. This is a national issue that our voters do not understand.



Posted by GBPackTigers
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2009
1681 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:56 am to
quote:


Yet we were still spending as if we weren’t $40 trillion in the hole.


So let’s vote blue.

There are only 2 choices when you vote.

Every politician or President will have problems that we don’t agree 100% of the time but we need to maintain the core principles our founders envisioned.

The democrats core principles have left them by installing radicals all over the place.
Posted by Aeolian Vocalion
Texas
Member since Jul 2022
573 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:56 am to
I always get a kick out of libertarians, who frame things as "do you place trust in the state, or do you place trust in the people?" to make decisions.

Hell, I laugh at that, because I don't trust either one!

Now, if we're talking about the American populace of say, 75 years ago, 100 years ago, 125 years ago? Yeah, I'd defer to the populace with ease. But with the current mix of entitled dregs and decades of invasion by foreign cultures, I don't have one iota of confidence in the modern American public in anything other than their desire to destroy everything I value.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
84009 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:56 am to
Very good take.

The politicians who are coming after our freedoms are supported by secularists and hedonists.

The other W take was Madison, who said we need the Bill of Rights because it would bake those rights into the political culture and serve as a buffer against future politicians who will inevitably try to take away those rights.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
69848 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:58 am to
quote:

We need conservative republicans. I don’t see many running that aren’t interested in handouts or war. Do you?


Yes actually. There were a ton of them. They lost. Now we'll never get that opportunity again. Republican voters told Republicans that's not what they want.
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