re: The Founding Fathers were right again.

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Preemptively attacking other countries for “WMDs” or the 35 year old nukes is not what they envisioned.

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Since they could not have conceived of a nuclear warhead in 1776 we're left only with the strategy of coming to our own conclusions about the wisdom of ignoring a fundamentalist theocratic nation that has repeatedly pledged to destroy one of its neighbors and funded and exported as much terrorism as possible to that end for 45 years who announces to US officials that they have what is very close to weapons grade materials.

Personally, I think ignoring that would have been moronic. I think those of you who argue for it are being even more moronic every time you do it.

As much as y'all try to make out like it is, this is not GWB following intel that turned out to be false (but that everyone, including all the Democrats who voted to take action along with Republicans, thought was real). This is not Israel making a claim about Iran.

This is Iran telling US officials that they have it. That's a totally different and unprecedented situation than we've ever faced before in the ME, and again, ignoring it would have been extremely moronic.

Oh, and btw, this s also in the context of Iran killing 30 or 40 thousand of its own citizens on a parallel timeline.

Maybe they could have demanded an inspection instead of bombing. Maybe they did and Iran told us to piss up a rope. It's doubtful that they would have allowed anybody to come in and inspect when they were also in the process of comitting large scale human rights violations against their own citizens.

Now, could all of that be made up about them having near weapons grade material? Is the government pulling a complete psyop on the American public? Did they lie about Iran's report, just make it up?

For what? To give Trump an excuse to bomb Iran just because he doesn't like them and they've made him mad in the past? Because the Jooz told him to? So that he could say, "Look at me, I toppled the regime in Iran?"

Possible, but unlikely. They've fricked with Trump before and he's responded by assassinating one of their top generals and fenced with them in other minor ways, but nothing like this.

Is it also possible that he got bad intel from Israel about what it would take to topple Iran? Were we manipulated by Israel by having been given a false sense of easy success ? It does look that way.

But I'm not sure how this would have played out differently even if that hadn't happened. Because again, you'd have had to be a moron to not take the threat seriously.

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And thats a congress issue, so you replace them in a primary

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That is a good idea as long as you don’t recruit or support terrible candidates. If you keep putting bad inept people in office nothing will get done

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religious people

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Ask anyone who has ever worked in a restaurant how these types are.