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re: The First of Many - Vietnam Negotiates Zero Tariff Policy
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:33 am to coldbeerfan
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:33 am to coldbeerfan
What's stopping another country from undercutting us with less taxes and less tariffs and taking the business from us?
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's a very vague term that allows goalpost moving to avoid being called a failure.
lol it’s the topic you are posting about
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If countries move to "zero tariff", then this won't happen.
Hmm ok thanks.
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So this Vietnam agreement is a failure, right? For this stated goal. This is more likely to increase manufacturing in Vietnam compared to America.
do you think cars are manufactured at the same plant as polo shirts? quote:
Then this Vietnam agreement is a failure, as that will not happen.
My goodness this keeps getting dumber.
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Then this Vietnam agreement is a failure, as tariff collection will decrease.
Yes I am sure we will get nothing we want out of it because they are asking us to reconsider and to negotiate with us. And our willingness to listen certainly doesn’t mean that we are open to negotiating, and perhaps, may have been the point of all of this.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:34 am to coldbeerfan
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What part of reciprocal don’t you understand? For someone who claims to be the smartest man in the room you should know how this works. Money saved by not paying tariffs to other countries pays down the national debt. Companies that moved their factories to foreign countries because of the stupidity of NAFTA, and cheap labor will be penalized for taking those jobs from Americans. Here’s the incentive for moving back to the country that built you.
I’m just a high school graduate country boy with a masters degree in life lessons. So if you need educated on anything else just let me know.
It saddens me how you and others believe this will happen.
I can tell. Here on the Tigerdroppings poli-board, you're in your element.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:35 am to Pandy Fackler
This board (MAGA loyalists) is really showing its stupidity.
And they seem to be very proud of it.
And they seem to be very proud of it.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:36 am to Flats
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They'll sorta admit that by never responding, but what I can't get anybody to do is tell me what industries we're going to protect and why.
Uh, I made a few people melt last night because I recognized the "national security" argument coming and told them before we have that discussion they have to post every industry/sector they want subsidized (instead of their cherry-picked obvious ones).
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One person here wants catfish protected, others obviously want the auto industry protected.
Childcare is infrastructure
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:37 am to OceanMan
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lol it’s the topic you are posting about
And I'm posting out the generic, vague talking points have no rhetorical value or value to the discussion.
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do you think cars are manufactured at the same plant as polo shirts?
What does this have to do with the price of pho in Vietnam?
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My goodness this keeps getting dumber.
Notice, you can't articulate an actual response, again.
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Yes I am sure we will get nothing we want out of it because they are asking us to reconsider and to negotiate with us.
Moving the goalpost to avoid admitting you were wrong. Exactly the point of pointing out why the generic/vague talking points have no value
Thank you for proving my point in real time.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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Childcare is infrastructure
FFS don't give them any ideas. MAGA be selling "Eat the rich!" shirts before long.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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Those are multiple goals that cannot coexist.
This is the same dishonest vagueness MAGA is known for with their other moving target terms, like "globlaism", "deep state", lawfare", etc.
If you never make an actual argument/claim, you can never be wrong.
Will Roger, Bunky, Seldom Seen, VOR, Decatur, all pop in this thread to high five this rubbish?
Some are plainly purposeful trolls that simply get off trolling. Some could be paid trolls.
Some are seemingly ignorant to the fact that DJTrump's ego simply won't allow him to lose in these deals. He factored in the imbeciles being concerned.
He has been waiting for this for all of his life, Oh lord -----and he is brilliant enough to place those around him that are multifaceted in skill.
We will be fine. We will be better. But you do you.
Elon Musk really fricked up their plan. Look at the UK right now.
Did you believe Biden was going to build back better? Or was that a universal all nations----theme---- complete with full-censorship- herding sheep towards marxist globalization?
Please reply by 14:00 today in 375 words or less. Thanks.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:43 am to Flats
The historical core tenets of conservatism economics: subsidizing industry, unions, and taking from the rich to give to the poor and forgotten.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:44 am to cajunangelle
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Will Roger, Bunky, Seldom Seen, VOR, Decatur, all pop in this thread to high five this rubbish?
Some are plainly purposeful trolls that simply get off trolling. Some could be paid trolls.
Some are seemingly ignorant to the fact that DJTrump's ego simply won't allow him to lose in these deals. He factored in the imbeciles being concerned.
He has been waiting for this for all of his life, Oh lord -----and he is brilliant enough to place those around him that are multifaceted in skill.
We will be fine. We will be better. But you do you.
Elon Musk really fricked up their plan. Look at the UK right now.
Did you believe Biden was going to build back better? Or was that a universal all nations----theme---- complete with full-censorship- herding sheep towards marxist globalization?
Please reply by 14:00 today in 375 words or less. Thanks.
It appears Trump has broken you
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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So the goal is "zero tariff" and not "bringing manufacturing jobs back" or "funding the government with tariffs"?
It’s a fluid situation.
What can your average Vietnamese buy that we make on the regular?
Seems silly. Vietnam?
Posted on 4/5/25 at 9:47 am to roadGator
Vietnam is China 2.0.
A communist country that's taking manufacturing share away from China that we're "funding the development of" or whatever talking point you want to use.
A communist country that's taking manufacturing share away from China that we're "funding the development of" or whatever talking point you want to use.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:03 am to Flats
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FFS don't give them any ideas. MAGA be selling "Eat the rich!" shirts before long.
Shrimping is national security
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:08 am to wackatimesthree
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It's like Andrew Dice Clay used to say about being bi-sexual. There's no such thing. You either suck dick, or you do not suck dick.
Some of the old thinking was homosexuality wasn’t a thing. Not born with it. Humans are just bisexual and respond to sexual stimuli.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:09 am to dnm3305
What you need to understand is that ALL lawyers are parasites. SFP has a vested interest in government needing more and more attorneys to argue over stupid shite. Just look at his post history.
He’s a leech with no other value on this planet but sucking money away from people who actually produce things.
He’s a leech with no other value on this planet but sucking money away from people who actually produce things.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:28 am to cajunangelle
Vietnam could easily become a wonderful trading partner for the USA.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:29 am to Centinel
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What you need to understand is that ALL lawyers are parasites. SFP has a vested interest in government needing more and more attorneys to argue over stupid shite. Just look at his post history.
when SFP is proven right, the ad homs flow
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:40 am to SlowFlowPro
You keep doing that like they're mutually exclusive.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:46 am to Captain Rumbeard
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You keep doing that like they're mutually exclusive.
They mostly are.
If the "fair trade/zero tariff" policies are enacted, there will be no positive shift in either manufacturing or tax revenue.
If the "manufacturing back home" policies are enacted, then we won't have "fair trade/zero tariff" (and likely won't have tax revenue as the pricing pressure by the tariff policy will move to domestic manufacturing, which means our reliance on foreign imports of those goods will decline, so no tariffs collected).
If the "tariffs are funding our government" policy is enacted, we will be paying tariffs for foreign goods while hey tariff our experts and we won't be increasing domestic manufacturing (as we're paying the tariffs on imports instead)
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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when SFP is proven right, the ad homs flow
What have you been right about? Judge Cannon's ruling about Jack Smith? That there is no lawfare against Trump...
Whatever Trump does you are against. Find a new schtick.
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