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re: The equal exchange between employer and employee yet one is taxed. Why?
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:26 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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Are you ignorant of payroll taxes?
Not at all. But you can bet your last dollar payroll tax percentages are far less than my income tax percentages.
Far less!! How it it fair to employees?
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Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:29 am to Timeoday
Try being self employed. You get fricked on health insurance for you and your family, and you’re double taxed on SS/FICA.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:29 am to Timeoday
It all works out. Employers are taxed.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:34 am to Timeoday
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However, the value you compensate the employer with is not taxed.
What leftist, idiot, programming did you download this from?
If you work for a corporation… corporations are double taxed on income. They are taxed on the income generated and then on dividends to shareholders.
They then pay the same amount you do in Social Security and Medicare with zero benefit to the corporation.
If they sell certain items… there is an excise tax.
Then they pay property tax on the physical location… state taxes… sales taxes… etc etc.
Got insurance with the business? They probably pay a chunk of your premiums leaving you with a part of the cost.
Got vacation time? They pay you for not showing up? Sick time?
Stop reading and believing idiocy.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 8:36 am
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:38 am to ragincajun03
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Try being self employed. You get fricked on health insurance for you and your family
Yep, this is insane. When/if Trump tries to fix healthcare, he needs to start here.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:42 am to Timeoday
Get this dumb shite back to tiktok where it can circulate amongst ignorant morons again.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:43 am to Timeoday
However, the value you compensate the employer with is not taxed. To me, it has always been the most unfair aspect of taxation. As a matter of fact, the employer can even write off your value as a cost while the value you receive from the employer is treated as a profit for tax purposes.
Why is it so one sided?
F off communist
Why is it so one sided?
F off communist
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:44 am to Timeoday
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the value you compensate the employer with is not taxed.
What tik tok video did you get this crap from? Was it the same people who try to tell you rich people don't pay taxes because they borrow money on the value of the stock they own?
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:46 am to Timeoday
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Why is it so one sided?
Truly a completely uninformed take. Small business owner here: It's not one sided and it's not even close. Being (basically) self employed, I get fricked on taxes.
The current system leaves very little incentive (tax wise) for someone to go out and work hard to start a business instead of just working for a mega-corp.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:47 am to Timeoday
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However, the value you compensate the employer with is not taxed.
You don't think employers are taxed?
Interdasting...
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:48 am to frogtown
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When/if Trump tries to fix healthcare, he needs to start here.
Guarantee you Trump, nor any DC politician, gives enough shits to even try to fix that issue.
Years ago I tried to talk to a couple Congressmen (Boustany & Landry when they were running against each other due to merged districts) about one way to help with healthcare and insurance costs would be to allow self employed folks to not get taxed on that other 6.25% if they deferred that money to a HSA.
They both himmed and hawed about how that was a “great idea”, but “impossible to pass” in Congress. In other words “We don’t give a shite and don’t want to try.”
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:51 am to Timeoday
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But you can bet your last dollar payroll tax percentages are far less than my income tax percentages.
That's just where it starts. Not counting "fees" (mostly permits), employers are taxed, too.
Unless it operates at a loss, in which case, that is functionally a tax so the poor, set upon employees can have a job in the first place.
The upper middle class is dominated by small business owners. Along with the affluent, the upper middle class pays a lion's share of net taxes in the U.S. The lowest 2 quintiles pay nothing in income taxes, only payroll taxes to the treasury.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:52 am to Timeoday
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I have paid more in payroll "tax" cost than almost all will earn in their lifetime. I completely understand the government mandated "costs" which all, to me, are considered taxes. I just did not ever understand why the employee had to pay a tax on an equal exchange.= between employee and my company.
You claim to own a business but wonder why there are not more taxes.
Suuuuure you do. 
You have a phone that connected you with some dipshit you don’t even know and they made you believe something so moronic it’s unfathomable how anyone was talked into it. And you believed that moron you don’t even know. THAT sounds more like the actual situation here.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:53 am to Cotten
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The current system leaves very little incentive (tax wise) for someone to go out and work hard to start a business instead of just working for a mega-corp.
Bingo.
It’s like our government intentionally wants to discourage individualism in regards to income earning. If you don’t have a percentage of your wages automatically withheld every two weeks for Fed taxes, the Fed government wants you to feel extra pain.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 9:10 am to Timeoday
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I have paid more in payroll "tax" cost than almost all will earn in their lifetime.
Press X to doubt.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 9:13 am to Timeoday
Was the payroll tax repealed for employers? News to me if so.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:39 am to CleverUserName
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What leftist, idiot, programming did you download this from?
How is it leftist to be anti-tax? Please, do tell.......
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:41 am to Timeoday
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However, the value you compensate the employer with is not taxed. To me, it has always been the most unfair aspect of taxation. As a matter of fact, the employer can even write off your value as a cost while the value you receive from the employer is treated as a profit for tax purposes.
Why is it so one sided?
Never heard of payroll taxes, have you? Nor benefits.
I tell you what, since you feel so cheated by your employer, start your own business and that way you can tax others for your shitty ideas. Come to think of it, i think you owe me money after reading such a retarded post.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:43 am to Timeoday
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Employers are not taxed for compensating our labor.
Here you go, genius. Again, you owe me a penalty for creating such stupid ideas.
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Employer taxes on labor typically include payroll taxes such as Social Security and Medicare taxes, which are shared between the employer and employee. Additionally, employers may be responsible for federal and state unemployment taxes, which help fund unemployment benefits.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:45 am to Ace Midnight
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You don't think employers are taxed?
Interdasting...
I did not ever say the employer was not taxed. Of course I know employers are taxed. But the employee is a lone entity who has to pay a tax on what he or she provides the employer. The employer IS NOT TAXED for that exchange.
The employee is in a 25% bracket. Please show me the box on the tax form whereas the employer also is taxed at 25% for receiving the labor or skill set from the employee.
It does not exist.
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