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The direction schools should be forced to take - LEGALLY

Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1540 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:02 pm
Public School is for Education not Indoctrination. If you want to have both, then send your kid to a religous school or a drag queen school. Inasmuch there is a separation of Church and State, forbidding the teaching of relligion in Public Schools, then it should also be forbidden to teach any other philosophy that effectively serves as a religion.

Beyond forbidden, but criminal - is the sexualization of children. Whomever approved of books teaching young children how to give blowjobs should be now and forever in prison.

This is not hard. Teach Math, Reading, Science in their pure form. Do not seed lessons of equity, critical race theory and climate change into these "pure" subjects. Otherwise you are guilty of the charge of indoctrination.

This is not hard. The will to push this through politically is hard, because we have some many who have already been indoctrinated and will defend these horrible practices.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 12:03 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111622 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:03 pm to
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then it should also be forbidden to teach any other philosophy that effectively serves as a religion.


Like Marxism.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1540 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:03 pm to
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Like Marxism.


Yes, just like that.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21925 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:05 pm to
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any other philosophy that effectively serves as a religion.


They ARE religions by some common definitions, they just don't involve a deity.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15052 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:06 pm to
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The direction schools should be forced to take - LEGALLY
Public School is for Education not Indoctrination. If you want to have both, then send your kid to a religous school or a drag queen school. Inasmuch there is a separation of Church and State, forbidding the teaching of relligion in Public Schools, then it should also be forbidden to teach any other philosophy that effectively serves as a religion. Beyond forbidden, but criminal - is the sexualization of children. Whomever approved of books teaching young children how to give blowjobs should be now and forever in prison. This is not hard. Teach Math, Reading, Science in their pure form. Do not seed lessons of equity, critical race theory and climate change into these "pure" subjects. Otherwise you are guilty of the charge of indoctrination. This is not hard. The will to push this through politically is hard, because we have some many who have already been indoctrinated and will defend these horrible practices.





Thats exactly the way 99 percent of schools are now. You spend too much time on this message board. Most schools are okay especially in wealthy areas.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112629 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:07 pm to
The teaching of history requires teaching religion. It played a rather large role over the past 5,000 years. That doesn't mean you are advocating religion.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1540 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:07 pm to
I think parents need to be informed of the curriculum. Certainly it would be easy enough to give them a link to the material their child are being taught - right? The classroom has become a secretive place where children are transformed into a person who thinks the way the state wants them to think.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41797 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:09 pm to
Religions provide their own worldviews that compete with other worldviews that people adhere to, including ones not based on religious principles. I think it's absurd to have an atheistic, humanistic, and materialistic worldview taught to children in the name of secularism when it competes directly with religious worldviews. It functions the same way as teaching a religious worldview, only it's protected in the name of separation of church and state.
Posted by Lptigerfan
Jeff Davis Parish
Member since May 2015
599 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:28 pm to
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The teaching of history requires teaching religion. It played a rather large role over the past 5,000 years. That doesn't mean you are advocating religion.


This right here. In Louisiana, this is part of the 6th grade curriculum.
Remeber, the reason we are "supposed" to learn about history is so we don't make the same mistakes in the future. Unfortunately, sometimes, teachers put their own personal spin on it. I remember being in high school in the 80's and having a History teacher want to fight me because I disagreed with him about something he was teaching about the Korean War. I was taught about the Korean War from my father, who was there for 2 years. I trust his word more than the teacher.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:37 pm to
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In as much there is a separation of Church and State, forbidding the teaching of religion in Public Schools, then it should also be forbidden to teach any other philosophy that effectively serves as a religion.


Christians need to realize that everything the left pushes have an end goal, and we need to stop letting them get away with it. They pushed God of schools, for a reason and now we are seeing why.

We need to force them to prove to us where "Separation of Church and State" is in the foundation of this nation, because there is way more proof there is no such thing. This country was founded on Judeo-Christian values, and letting the demoncrats to change history is our fault.

#seperationofwokeandstate
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:04 pm to
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I think parents need to be informed of the curriculum. Certainly it would be easy enough to give them a link to the material their child are being taught - right? The classroom has become a secretive place where children are transformed into a person who thinks the way the state wants them to think.


This is where the breakdown is, and it isn't necessarily the school's fault. As sad as it is to say, the majority of parents couldn't give less of a shite about what goes on in school, beyond the school sports.

My wife is an elementary school librarian, after being a classroom teacher for 14 years. There are things going on in our little podunk school, that would have parents burning the place to the ground if they knew they were happening. Thankfully, it is nothing to do with gay indoctrination or drag queen groomers, but some of the kids that decent, normal kids are forced to be subjected to in going to school with them is unconscionable.

Over the years, we've had sweet little innocent country bumpkin Susie and Billy going to school with kids who talked and acted filthier than Larry Flynt, because single drugged out daddy sat and watched porn all evening with his second grade son. We've had Susie and Billy going to school with kids, we're talking K-6 here, who have brought drugs, knives, and other weapons to school, and have threatened to use them.We have Susie and Billy going to school with kids who have not only physically abused their classmates, but also teachers and administrators. A few years ago, we had a pregnant teacher kicked in the stomach, who eventually lost her baby. We've had pregnant teachers threatened by second graders with scissors, telling her he was going to stab her in the stomach.

The rules as they exist prevent much in the way of punishment for these kids. they can't be sent off to reform school where they belong. The really bad ones are sent to ALE school, only to be regurgitated right back where they cause the problems in the first place.

I know some of these kid's fathers. I know for a fact that if some of the dads I know were told that their daughter had to sit beside a kid who made comments about their little 7 year old's private parts and what he was going to do to them, there wouldn't be one brick on top of another at that school. But he doesn't know, because the school doesn't inform him.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21925 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:09 pm to
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But he doesn't know, because the school doesn't inform him.


That doesn’t jive with your first claim.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15052 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:11 pm to
Well, here is a radical idea, inform the dads. Let the bricks land where they may.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26656 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:22 pm to
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forbidden to teach

And now you've lost me.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41797 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:24 pm to
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We need to force them to prove to us where "Separation of Church and State" is in the foundation of this nation, because there is way more proof there is no such thing.
Amen. There is a big difference between being against the establishment of a state religion that requires all people to adhere to it and removing religion from all public spaces.

The modern concept of the separation is completely antithetical to what the founders practiced.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:24 pm to
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That doesn’t jive with your first claim.


How so?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:27 pm to
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That doesn’t jive with your first claim.

jibe
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:36 pm to
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Well, here is a radical idea, inform the dads. Let the bricks land where they may.


If you are talking to me, understand that you could easily be asking me to be involved in a murder trial. No sir. It should be the school's responsibility to inform the parents about some of the things to which their children have been subjected. Not necessarily dropping names but letting them know what has happened. Then the parent can pursue it if they so choose. But the school is not going to do it, unless they are required, and they aren't.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:40 pm to
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jibe



NORTH AMERICAN
informal
be in accord; agree:
"her facial expressions did not jive with what she was saying"

I knew exactly what he was saying, Hanky. So did you.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:43 pm to
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I knew exactly what he was saying, Hanky. So did you.


Grammar Nazis are so pathetic.

They are usually aren't creative, so they have to nitpick .
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