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Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:23 am to Roaad
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a return to the status quo
Not quite if sanctions are lifted. Iran comes out ahead if this is the deal.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:23 am to lepdagod
quote:Because it means all this was pointless
how is it not?
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:24 am to lepdagod
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but return to the status quo is a win… how is it not?
It’s a win for Iran because it’s not quite the status quo. They get their sanctions lifted. It’s a net positive for them.
This post was edited on 5/24/26 at 9:25 am
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:27 am to justsaygeaux2
The whole point of taking action in the first place was to disrupt their nuclear program. We’ve done this twice already and we will probably do it again.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:28 am to DeBoar
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I was told earlier we were going to pay reparations.
I was told we’d get their nuclear dust and they would commit to no nuclear weapons program.
No one should be gloating or rending their garments at this point. We don’t know what “the deal” is yet.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:30 am to Roaad
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Because it means all this was pointless
Nothing ever pointless… these world politics which most MAGA and Trump fanboys don’t have damn clue about… if you have even a minimal knowledge of world politics the last 80 years you’ll realize this is how we got set up to “rule the world “ for lack of a better term
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:31 am to Mo Jeaux
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It’s a win for Iran because it’s not quite the status quo. They get their sanctions lifted. It’s a net positive for them.
The positive in this for us is that Israel is not the hegemonic power in the region
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:33 am to lepdagod
quote:This diminished our power and influence in the region and throughout the world
Nothing ever pointless… these world politics which most MAGA and Trump fanboys don’t have damn clue about… if you have even a minimal knowledge of world politics the last 80 years you’ll realize this is how we got set up to “rule the world “ for lack of a better term
We have actually turned Iran from a regional actor into a global voice
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:34 am to Shamoan
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The whole point of taking action in the first place was to disrupt their nuclear program. We’ve done this twice already and we will probably do it again.
I also thought one primary point was to enable the iranians to overthrow the religious leaders and set up a better government.
Despite the rioting in the streets, appears they are just going to be subjugated again.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:38 am to Roaad
quote:With what gravitas on the world stage?
We have actually turned Iran from a regional actor into a global voice
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:41 am to justsaygeaux2
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:42 am to Jbird
quote:The gravitas of standing up to the great Tiger, and getting concessions
With what gravitas on the world stage?
To much of the world, they look like the bullied kid that finally punched the bully in the mouth
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:47 am to Roaad
quote:Maybe, regionally that isn't the case. Now why would anyone else gaf?
To much of the world, they look like the bullied kid that finally punched the bully in the mouth
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:50 am to Roaad
I’m sure all that’s exactly correct. But the only place I’ve seen that narrative being pushed is mostly here. And primarily amongst a particular segment that no matter how hard I try, I can’t take them seriously.
So all in all, the David and Goliath premise doesn’t warrant much serious attention.
So all in all, the David and Goliath premise doesn’t warrant much serious attention.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:50 am to justsaygeaux2
BS these idiots lie out there arse. Bomb them and take the island. Then you have FULL control over them.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:52 am to Roaad
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This diminished our power and influence in the region and throughout the world
I do not see that. We still hold currency everyone wants. That is what put us there to begin with.
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We have actually turned Iran from a regional actor into a global voice
This is a gross overstatement.
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:53 am to Jbird
quote:Why would anyone care if Iran became a bigger voice on the global stage, and effectively the biggest power in the ME?
Now why would anyone else gaf?
Because they are a major energy force, a sponsor of terror, and are a major player with our chief rivals.
I mean if that is all no big deal to you, enjoy the future. . .gonna be great
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:54 am to Jbird
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Bruh nothing!
So I can safely put you into the "we lied" category.
Now, why, in your opinion, did we lie? What were we trying to gain from this?
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:55 am to Roaad
quote:And yet you claim other nations see them as being bulied?
a sponsor of terror
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major player with our chief rivals.
quote:See above, that leading state sponsor of terror
Why would anyone care if Iran became a bigger voice on the global stage,
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I mean if that is all no big deal to you, enjoy the future. . .gonna be great
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