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re: The "Deal".'

Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:28 pm to
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I’m absolutely convinced you idiots have no clue what the word “decimated” means.
What does it mean to you?

I think the military casualty ratio is in the neighborhood of 15 US deaths (9 at the hands of the Iranians) vs 6000 dead IRGC and regular military + 15,000 or so wounded. Meanwhile, we flew thousands of sorties against targets, virtually unopposed.
This post was edited on 5/24/26 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:38 pm to
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The Iranians have already begun setting up a branch of government responsible for oversight of the strait.
That's nice.

quote:

The Chinese will supply them with modernized military equipment a lot quicker than you think.
No shite? The same junk they try to sell to other third world militaries?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:41 pm to
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What does it mean to you?

Well we need to get that because this guy’s suggesting he’s the holder of the official international definition of “decimate.” Dude’s famous. Never know who you’ll run across in here.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9177 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:57 pm to
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you idiots seem to think they are stronger.


And again absolutely no clue what the word decimated means. But clearly to you a “decimated” country is able to shut down the Strait, shoot missiles at its Middle East neighbors and throw the world into an energy crisis.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9177 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:58 pm to
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Meanwhile, we flew thousands of sorties against targets, virtually unopposed.


And yet this decimated country has shut down the Strait and caused a worldwide energy crisis.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:10 pm to
You go Patton you go.

Okay how about, severely attrited capabilities better?

Ffs

Pick your words and stroke to them jerk off
This post was edited on 5/24/26 at 1:11 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:12 pm to
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And yet this decimated country has shut down the Strait and caused a worldwide energy crisis.
Thank you for clarifying. Now we know who is actually unfamiliar with the meaning and ramifications of the term "decimated."
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:13 pm to
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severely attrited capabilities better?
Nah, decimated is a closer fit.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2256 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:15 pm to
We achieved none of the objectives we wanted in the first place. Strait opened (it was open before the war), regime still in place, funding for terrorist proxies will continue, no agreement on anything nuclear for 60 days. Please tell me how this deal is a W hahaha
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:17 pm to
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We achieved none of the objectives
We

are

not

done

yet.

Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2256 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:20 pm to
Yea that’s what we keep hearing just a few more cease fire extensions and I’m sure Iran will cave in to all our demands
Posted by Robcrzy
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2007
1363 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:21 pm to
Yesterday a deal was
Imminent today no deal and we have all the time in the world. Trump is getting played
Posted by cafeaulait19
Houston, Texas
Member since Jul 2012
794 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:41 pm to
Seems to me, The Deal should be: Bring us every ounce of your uranium, and then we’ll talk. Not the other way around like this is.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90085 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:41 pm to
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Revisionist history. Nice try. Strait was open with free and safe passage on February 27 and before. Create a problem. Solve the problem you create Expect accolades for solving the problem you create


no it was not open when iran could mine, attack or threaten to attack any ship in the strait whenever it wanted to

that is not open, that is controlled

when I read that Trump wants the strait open as a term that means Iran can not interfere with safe passage of legally registered traffic through the strait ever again

iran can defend themselves only

i think some of you guys are too dense or blinded by TDS to understand the difference
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63927 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:42 pm to
The Strait was open before the War. You’re being disingenuous to say otherwise.
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1743 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

quote:
Iran will have a presidential election in 2028.

Iran will elect Donald J. Trump.


What?


#MIRANGA
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139186 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 2:03 pm to
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Yea that’s what we keep hearing just a few more cease fire extensions and I’m sure Iran will cave in to all our demands
LARancher1991: "Daddy, are we there yet?"
Dad: "No, it's a 4-hr trip. We left 30-mins ago."
...
LARancher1991: "Daddy, are we there yet?"
Dad: "No, it's a 4-hr trip. We left 45-mins ago."
...
LARancher1991: "Daddy, are we there yet?"
Dad: "Sigh ..."
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90085 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 2:09 pm to
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The Strait was open before the War. You’re being disingenuous to say otherwise.


quote:

Iran’s history of targeting ships in and around the Strait of Hormuz spans decades of maritime conflict, typically escalating during periods of intense regional tension or broader warfare.

The historical timeline of these operations encompasses several notable phases:The Tanker War (1980s): During the Iran-Iraq War, both nations frequently targeted merchant vessels and oil tankers in the Persian Gulf to cripple each other's economies. Iran used heavily armed speedboats and laid naval mines, which prompted the U.S. Navy to escort Kuwaiti oil tankers through the strait to protect them.

Heightened Sanctions (2010s): In response to international sanctions over its nuclear program, Iran regularly threatened to close the strait. It also increased the harassment and boarding of commercial vessels it accused of smuggling fuel.

2019-2025 Seizures and Sabotage: The U.S. Navy blamed Iran for multiple limpet mine attacks on oil tankers near the strait. During this period, Iran also seized several internationally flagged vessels, including Greek and Portuguese-flagged tankers, often in retaliation for seized Iranian assets abroad.

The 2026 Conflict: Tensions flared into open warfare, with Iran attacking commercial vessels, firing cruise missiles and drones, and attempting to disrupt shipping routes entirely. This resulted in significant naval engagement from the U.S. and allied forces to secure the strategic chokepoint.


until now the strait was controlled and often held hostage by Iran, that is not really open

Iran’s fast boats, navy, mine layers and missiles covering the strait are nowvdestroyed

when the deal is signed, Iran will no longer be able to control the strait and attack ships, seize cargo and hold hostage the safe passage of ALL legal traffic

then it will be fully open
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12872 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 2:13 pm to
If they get this

quote:

- Sanctions on Iranian oil are lifted.


They don’t need this

quote:

- The United States will make no payments to Iran.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
91011 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 2:13 pm to
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