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re: The $600 IRS Bank Account reporting. (GUNS)

Posted on 10/8/21 at 10:29 am to
Posted by Hogwallop
Member since Jul 2021
413 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 10:29 am to
Its not a $600 transaction threshold its for all transactions in accounts that have more that 600. Essentially all transactions monitored no matter the amount.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19448 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 10:33 am to
They are subverting our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Posted by Dough
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
183 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 10:36 am to
Ultimately it will be used to tax (mostly) low wage earners that are more likely to have cash transactions like under the table payments, cash tips, etc.
As Shell said, it’s an aggregate amount.
So...at the end of the year the bank reports that Suzie the cocktail waitress had an account with $28,000 in movement in and out for the year. The IRS looks and says Suzie only had $19,000 in wages on her W2.
Knock, knock....”Suzie can you explain where this $9000 came from? We want our cut.”

But hey, they’re not going to tax anyone under $400k right? They must keep the narrative so the uninformed will continue voting for these a**holes.
Posted by RonLaFlamme
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1678 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 10:37 am to
I don't trust them either, but the bank reporting requirements doesn't seem to be about guns. Rather, it's about tax $ and control.

The requirement doesn't require itemized reporting of transactions. It requires the aggregate inflows and outflows be reported on all bank accounts > $600.

This will identify people not being paid via over the counter means (1099 or W2) and allow the IRS to target them for taxes owed.

It's an overreach and I hope it never gets implemented and if it does, it gets ruled unconstitutional. But it's not about guns and ammo purchases.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56310 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 10:41 am to
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I feel this is no more than an attempt to monitor gun and ammo purchases.

No, it's a plan to monitor every single transaction, no matter what it is, so they can further spy on people and squeeze as many tax dollars out of us as they can.

They're probably already doing it. They just need legal permission now because they want to mail people the tax bills.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
6986 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 10:51 am to
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Right, but I'm not seeing the logic you're running with here. Are you insinuating that they are tracking this to find out who has AR-15s so they can take them away?

Are Gun Store purchases itemized on your bank account?


The bank would lead to the gun store.. They would have record of my purchase. If in the future ar15's were banned. That would be enough evidence for a warrent right there.

It funny that 2I (And others) were restricted on Facebook from posting in groups or events until after Biden took office... Who on fb kept records of who were Trump supporters and who weren't.

Add that with a huge possibility of people's guns and ammo purchases being tracked.

And then we have reason to suspect the election may have been fraudulent?

No, I don't trust these commie bastards
This post was edited on 10/8/21 at 10:52 am
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Many restaurants here in Htown don't even accept cash now.


Not joking. That used to be illegal.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13531 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 10:55 am to
quote:

The Smith and Wesson m&p 15 sport II with 30 round magazine.

$749 online.... it would be reported.


900 rounds .556 - $799 online... it would be reported.




Its not a single purchase of $600. It is $600 worth of transactions in a calendar year.


Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5983 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 11:18 am to
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The purpose of the 600$ reporting is much more nefarious than that. It's just more "Big Brothering".


absolutely. I'm pretty convinced that they'll employ the same tactic with guns that they are using for everything else. indoctrinate kids/teens to see guns as evil and probably racist, anti lgbtqfrickall+. sure they'll continue to try to legislate but that has proven difficult. plus its a lot less volatile situation when guns are demonized (and therefore unwanted) than it is to try and confiscate. I mean.. why would they screw with what works?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68553 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 11:20 am to
its the frog in boiling water.



Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
6912 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 11:33 am to
If AR's were banned, then Gun Stores would be forced to comply with federal regulations. Government could go straight to distribution records. They wouldn't have to look at each individuals account. What you are suggesting is a legitimate logistical nightmare.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57287 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 11:34 am to
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I don't trust these sobs.


Welcome aboard
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26981 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 11:42 am to
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There has been a huge push since covid to get rid of cash purchases.

Many restaurants here in Htown don't even accept cash now. It's weird.


Cash IS filthy. But once Covid dissipates. I would expect cash purchases to boom. It will end up costing retail places as they have converted to plastic. Now they will have much more cash on hand. Which reopens security issues and needs for secure pick ups and cash drops.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57287 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 11:43 am to
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The $600 IRS Bank Account reporting.


Is this actual legislative law now?
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Can't you pay cash for this


Yeah but if you draw large sums of cash from your account = flagged.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44815 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 11:46 am to
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I feel this is no more than an attempt to monitor gun and ammo purchases.


I think it's more of an attempt to see political donations so they can put you on a terrorism watchlist. This is a terrifying rule and anyone who is fine with this is my enemy.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27921 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 12:36 pm to
I always use cash for those purchases.
Posted by SpecialHazard
SOCAL
Member since Jan 2018
1572 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 12:38 pm to
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All it would do is incentivize cash purchases


Yep. Already thinking along these lines.
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
7015 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 12:44 pm to
This $600 IRS thing is 100% about tracking gun purchases. The war on cash is real & part of the Great Reset is eliminating cash. When cash is out of the picture you are at the mercy of your bank & your government. This will be a disaster & all these millennials who pay with their cards for their latte’s & most purchases are clueless about where this is heading.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6562 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 12:47 pm to
The IRS shite is pointless but you are also filling out a background check when you buy a gun that isn't a personal sell so I don't see your point.
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