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re: The .30-06 conspiracy theory is the theory with the most legs.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:50 pm to lake chuck fan
Posted on 12/13/25 at 4:50 pm to lake chuck fan
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Geez. You are such an idiot. That is all we know! What we're being told. The caliber and the distance.
Then you dont have enough to even make an educated guess.
Because youre leaving out the most important element.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:04 pm to Sassafrasology
Nobody knows the load that was used, the bullet type, the powder charge, the age? Was it old surplus fmj? It was shot at a downward angle, bullets do weird things when they hit bone. It's perfectly possible it hit the spine and then deflected downward into his torso. I don't know what shooting a roast is supposed to show considering nobody knows or is using the same load, the same distance, and angle
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:18 pm to Sassafrasology
There’s obviously still alot to be sorted out here but one thing that I often wonder about when I see stories about authorities doing ballistics test to determine what weapons were used in shootings, how do they differentiate between all the possible cartridges in the world?
In this case they say .30-06, but when you look at cartridge data, there are probably at least 40 to 50 cartridges that use .308 diameter bullets that have been commercially available and probably that many other “wildcat” calibers that shooters have developed.
A large number of those cartridges are capable of producing 1500 to 4000 fps, all rifles and pistols have rifling grooves in the barrel to create bullet spin.
But how is a random .30 cal (.308” diameter) bullet, with rifling marks, determined to be shot from a .30-06? Why not a .308 Win, 30-30 Win, 30-40 Krag, 300 Blackout, .30 carbine, 300 Norma, 300 Win mag, 300 RUM, 7.62 x 51 nato…or any of the other multitude of .30 cal cartridges.
In this case they say .30-06, but when you look at cartridge data, there are probably at least 40 to 50 cartridges that use .308 diameter bullets that have been commercially available and probably that many other “wildcat” calibers that shooters have developed.
A large number of those cartridges are capable of producing 1500 to 4000 fps, all rifles and pistols have rifling grooves in the barrel to create bullet spin.
But how is a random .30 cal (.308” diameter) bullet, with rifling marks, determined to be shot from a .30-06? Why not a .308 Win, 30-30 Win, 30-40 Krag, 300 Blackout, .30 carbine, 300 Norma, 300 Win mag, 300 RUM, 7.62 x 51 nato…or any of the other multitude of .30 cal cartridges.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Then you dont have enough to even make an educated guess. Because youre leaving out the most important element.
There was no shooter, it was a staged hologram and Kirk is most likely still alive somewhere because the Israelis were after him for refusing their advances, which explains his wife’s fake behavior and no tears crying, reminds me of Tammy Faye baker except Tammy Faye could muster up tears. It would also explain the lack of blood on those attending to Kirk and the lack of a rifle in that fake video of the patsy on the building.
And that harlequin novel of a text message was a real stretch.
Oh well, just trying to mix things up a bit and give folks someone else to hate for awhile. Maybe someday we’ll find out what really happened, but I doubt it.
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:26 pm to Clark14
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Kirk is most likely still alive somewhere
Im kind of surprised one of our conspiracy buffs hasnt floated this yet.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:37 pm to Sassafrasology
I won't believe he was shot with a 30-06 until I see pictures of the bullet they pulled out of Charlie's neck, and even then I'll be skeptical.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:45 pm to KCSilverTiger
They didn’t rest a 110 gr varmint bullet.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:50 pm to lake chuck fan
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What I do know is that the many deer Ive shot with a 30.06 have ALWAYS had an exit wound. From the distance Charley was shot from, that bullet still had plenty enough energy to blow thru tissue and a spinal chord.
Did you ever shoot a deer with a rifle that was manufactured in, say the year 1900? And who knows how many rounds were fired through that worn out old war horse? And was that rifle Re-Calibered to use a different size round then the one for which it was originally intended?
Might some of these facts lead to a rifle losing some of its power due to propellant gas leakage through that 120 year old bolt with the re-sized barrel?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:07 pm to Champagne
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Might some of these facts lead to a rifle losing some of its power due to propellant gas leakage through that 120 year old bolt with the re-sized barrel?
If that was happening, the shooter would probably be blind.
What happened is the bullet impacted his neck at high velocity and a downward angle and it either fragmented, lodged in his neck, or yawed and went who knows where.
Virtually all the absolutes spoken here about this since the day he was shot have been grossly incorrecg
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:18 pm to narddogg81
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bullets do weird things when they hit bone
Combat Vets drug Mr Martenson's arse so bad yesterday that he started blocking all of them
Vets that have been shot and have first-hand experience with bullets doing weird shite
Of course the Op of this thread is engagement baiting
OP of the twitter thread is meant to cause chaos and possibly doubt into the minds of potential jurors as well as the public
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:39 pm to Sassafrasology
So these powerful people concocted this conspiracy to murder Kirk but overlooked the caliber of bullet bringing their entire operation down.
Sure thing.
Sure thing.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 7:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What type of cartridge did he use, since you know so much about this event?
Gay furries use full metal jackets.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 7:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Then you dont have enough to even make an educated guess.
Because youre leaving out the most important element.
Quit lying. I can post videos of my claim. You can not. What you're saying can't be reenacted.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 8:52 pm to Sassafrasology
Mic lapel gun with the whole everyone saw on Twitter videos being the exit wound.
Why don't they show the autopsy report where it suggests the entry wound being beneath his T-shirt? There was definitely a second shooter. TR is the patsy
Why don't they show the autopsy report where it suggests the entry wound being beneath his T-shirt? There was definitely a second shooter. TR is the patsy
Posted on 12/13/25 at 8:55 pm to Sassafrasology
How many live, human, 30something year old necks did they shoot?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:28 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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If that was happening, the shooter would probably be blind.
PROBABLY? Or perhaps merely POSSIBLY? Are you sure? No, of course not. We don't have the murder weapon in our hands.
We are engaging in speculation, right?
The murder weapon is the German Army Mauser 1898 Rifle, so, the weapon could easily have left the factory in the 1890s.
And I would not assume that the 1898 Mauser Rifle was being mass produced after 1935, because in that year the German Military stopped issuing the Rifle as the standard weapon. They switched to the 1898 Mauser Carbine (K98) in 1935 and Germany mass produced the K98 after that, probably not the Rifle 98, because the Rifle was no longer being used.
The murder weapon likely left the factory well over 100 years ago. It is reasonable to speculate that its "hitting power" was not the same in 2025 as it was back in 1900 or 1899 when it left the factory.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Truth seekers don’t care when the truth is sought out. If Candace is crazy then let her run her mouth to prove herself crazy. If she’s right, there will be a lot of back trackers in this thread who said they never doubted her.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:36 pm to Highheat
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If Candace is crazy then let her run her mouth to prove herself crazy.
Shes making wild accusations that hurt real people. There is nothing authentic about this on her part.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 9:39 pm to narddogg81
Exactly. If this is a 125 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip, which I have shot for decades on whitetails and have captured many in deer, this is not an abnormal thing.
What was grandpas rifle set up for? Predators?
What grain bullet?
What was grandpas rifle set up for? Predators?
What grain bullet?
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