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re: The .30-06 conspiracy theory is the theory with the most legs.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:01 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:01 pm to boosiebadazz
Boosie, I hate these conspiracy weirdos have you and I agreeing on things.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:05 pm to boosiebadazz
There were some redneck gun enthusiast types in the few weeks after the shooting saying a 30.06 would have ripped his body apart. But, then that just leads to neverending debates about whether there was some weird deflection or his chest plate is strong or he was wearing body protection or whatever.
Chris Martenson linked in OP usually just comes at things from math/nerd perspective.
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Chris Martenson linked in OP usually just comes at things from math/nerd perspective.
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Chris Martenson is out with a terrific video analysis that rebuts many of the false claims circulating on social media about who shot Charlie Kirk. Martenson proves beyond a reasonable doubt that it was not a .30-06 round that took Charlie’s life. I am posting below a video of a dummy composed of ballistic gel and a human skull that is a sickening illustration of the actual power of the .30-06. It also was not a pistol of any kind, especially the alleged palm pistol.
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:09 pm to Bunk Moreland
and then the CT motivated reasoning seems to go:
there is some anomalous forensic evidence
warranted CT's have anomalous evidence
ergo, this is a warranted CT featuring the French foreign legion?
(but almost all theories, good and bad have some anomalous evidence)
there is some anomalous forensic evidence
warranted CT's have anomalous evidence
ergo, this is a warranted CT featuring the French foreign legion?
(but almost all theories, good and bad have some anomalous evidence)
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:12 pm to Rebel
You and I are just two blind squirrels grabbing their nuts. I think that’s the saying
Posted on 12/13/25 at 10:13 pm to Bunk Moreland
Bullets fail, we don't know the bullet weight. We don't know the bullet type. Was it managed recoil? Was it a low weight bullet? Was it a handload? Did the simulation test at the angle of the shot?
Bullets have an do deflect off of bone. It is not impossible it deflected. Come up with something else more credible.
Bullets have an do deflect off of bone. It is not impossible it deflected. Come up with something else more credible.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 11:15 pm to Hognutz
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GROK
Yeah well AI said Abraham Lincoln was a Democrat.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 11:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Im kind of surprised one of our conspiracy buffs hasnt floated this yet.
I challenged one of them this morning with it because he was claiming that we can't know anything except what the "Deep State" allows us to know.
So my response was, "Then why are you so sure that Kirk was actually shot and killed? How do you know that wasn't an AI fake with AI advanced techniques that haven't been released to the public yet? For that matter, how do you even know Charlie Kirk actually ever existed? Did you ever meet him in person?"
It's pretty easy to show how self-refuting that nonsense is.
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 12/13/25 at 11:23 pm to Sassafrasology
The conspiracy theories on everything that happens is so stupid. I believe they got the right guy and rifle.
This now falls under Conspiracy Fatigue.
This now falls under Conspiracy Fatigue.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 11:39 pm to Sassafrasology
When it hit the vest and bounced off it lost a lot of momentum
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Come on people. 30-06 with 180 grain bullet produces about 2500 ft/lbs of energy at 100 yards. I hunt white tail in North Alabama with a 30-06. I've never shot a white tail in the chest cavity that the bullet didn't exit the chest cavity. Hit one high and in the spine. Bullet blew right thru the backbone. Shot an antelope in Montana years ago. She was quartering away and up the hill from me. Made a pinky size hole going in and pretty much took the right shoulder off. Shot a mule deer in montana as well, bullet went thru the chest cavity. Pinky size hole going in, index finger sized hole coming out. 30-06 goes thru the soft tissue of the neck like hot knife thru butter. If it hit the spine, it blew thru that as well. Bullet was coming in a downward trajectory. There looked to be a concrete wall at an angle behind Kirk. If Kirk's chair/table were on concrete, the bullet passed thru his neck hit the concrete beneath him at an angle. Ricocheted into the concrete wall behind him and then ricocheted off that and continued on. Likely in a bunch of pieces by that time. If Kirk's chair/table were on grass, then the bullet likely dug in right there.
The projectile is probably more important. Different types for different things. Not all are meant for deep penetration.
I'm sure a 30-06 will deflect some when it hits bone, but not enough to stay in the body.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:36 am to RollTide4547
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Come on people. 30-06 with 180 grain bullet
So you know for a fact that's what he used...
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Nope. Never said that. Simply stating my experience with a 30-06. If your brain processed the information that I typed and concluded that I "know for a fact that's what he used..." you should never ever ever ever EVER ridicule someone else's intelligence again.
So you know for a fact that's what he used...
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:42 am to Sassafrasology
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The .30-06 conspiracy theory is the theory with the most legs.
You sure it's not just the theory with the most figs?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:42 am to RollTide4547
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Nope. Never said that.
Its exactly what you alluded to.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:47 am to RollTide4547
Sounds like you're not sold on the offical story, not cheering the establishment narrative. How dare you...
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:59 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:MLK was shot in the neck, with a .30-06 from a distance of 207 ft. No exit wound!
There were some redneck gun enthusiast types in the few weeks after the shooting saying a 30.06 would have ripped his body apart. But, then that just leads to neverending debates about whether there was some weird deflection or his chest plate is strong or he was wearing body protection or whatever.
CK was shot in the neck, with a .30-06 from a distance of 427 ft. No exit wound! But somehow the latter is viewed as completely impossible.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:05 am to Sassafrasology
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Can you provide a link with a neck stopping an.30-06 round from -200 yards and a 9 degree incline stopping a .30-06 round besides CK?
I can’t give you a link but from my personal experience I can tell you this, my preferred rifle for hunting is my 30 year old Browning gold medallion 30-06. I have shot dozens of different brands of ammo through it and the most accurate I have found is Barnes TTSX 130grain
I usually kill 6-7 deer a year, most of my food plots are 4-5 acres and about 250 yards to the far side.
Out of the well over a hundred deer I have killed over these 30 years many are at 150-200 yards. I do NOT aim for the neck, but rather a few inches above the front shoulder. I cannot recall a single deer who did not have a pass through, and the shoulder area is thicker and has much more bone than a human neck has.
Maybe CK was shot with a poorly loaded round (not enough powder or something) but in my own personal shooting I don’t remember a shooting a deer with my 30-06 and not having an exit wound.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:33 am to Champagne
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The murder weapon likely left the factory well over 100 years ago. It is reasonable to speculate that its "hitting power" was not the same in 2025 as it was back in 1900 or 1899 when it left the factory.
It is not reasonable. Thats not how centerfire rifles work. A leakage that yields reduced muzzle velocity would completely destroy the rifle and injure the shooter.
Yall are focusing on the rifle which is nearly irrelevant in this discussion. All the Bubba "I've never seen a .30-06 NOT exit" comments are focused on the wrong thing as well.
Bullet construction
Impact velocity
Again, I've seen a 180gr nosler partition (elk bullet) fired from a .30-06 fail to exit a deers neck from a few feet away and from short range (180ish yards).
The neck is tremendously dense, the vertebrae in the neck are very stout, and its very easy to conceive how a full power .30-06 cartridge at that range could yield the "official" results.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:53 am to Sassafrasology
I’ve killed plenty of deer with 30-06 from different distances. Sometimes it comes out, sometimes it doesn’t. The type of bullet I mostly use is a hollow point or expansion style bullet to create the most internal damage to the animal.
The thing that intrigues me the most is that this shooter, who appears to not be an experienced shooter/hunter hits a neck shot from 200 yds with an old hunting rifle than probably hasn’t been sighted in in years.
I’ve killed a deer from 225 yds and that was a hard shot. I’ve shot targets from 200 yds out and it’s not easy to get within a 6” spot. He either got really lucky, or someone else pulled the trigger!
The thing that intrigues me the most is that this shooter, who appears to not be an experienced shooter/hunter hits a neck shot from 200 yds with an old hunting rifle than probably hasn’t been sighted in in years.
I’ve killed a deer from 225 yds and that was a hard shot. I’ve shot targets from 200 yds out and it’s not easy to get within a 6” spot. He either got really lucky, or someone else pulled the trigger!
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