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re: The +3 Harris Iowa Poll - Are you guys insane?

Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:10 pm to
Remember how Harris finished in the Iowa Caucus? …. oh, that’s right, she didn’t finish.

Dead last ….
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:55 pm to
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really hard to believe that a state that went Blue in 2008 and 2012 is blue again? Trump sucks, Iowans have realized it.
I don't usually copy and paste my own post, but can you explain why this one poll ranks the top issues completely different than the consensus of 100s of other polls for the last year?

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So every other state says Economy/inflation and Immigration are there top 2 issues? All 49 others states. We're talking, 100s of polls that have all agreed on that for the last year.

But Iowa....IOWA says their top 2 issues are Democracy and Abortion
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
3666 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:03 pm to
Oh yah know...i'm 70, our retirement is shot, the farm is broke, we can barely afford groceries, but my biggest concerns are democracy and abortion. I'm going Kamala.

Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84315 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:09 pm to
Is that a coat hanger I see peaking out under that skirt?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19297 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:20 pm to
This is huge! Let’s go!

Leftist Twitter is so pathetic and desperate. lol
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2787 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:44 pm to
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84315 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:46 pm to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:53 pm to
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Read through the Selzer crosstabs and... it's just straight crazy. Here's Selzer/2020 Exits Overall: D+3/R+8
Senior Women: D+35/D+6
Senior Men: R+2/R+32
Indies: D+7/D+4
Women: D+20/D+3
Men: R+14/R+19
Rurals: R+20/R+28
Suburbs: D+23/R+3
No College: R+12/R+17
College: D+30/D+7


Jesus Christ...like their not even trying to hide it
Posted by Da #1 Stunna
985
Member since Oct 2012
2077 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:57 pm to
Total 100% BS. As usual.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:58 pm to
From the same poll....can we put this one to bed now?

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Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:04 am to
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Those of you who believe that that poll is legit, are you willing to stand by it?


Yeah. I doubt Harris wins Iowa but I wouldn’t be shocked at all if she gets close there.

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If it is a real and accurate poll, the state that Trump won with a wider margin than TX and FL is now in Harris’ column.


The demographics are much different in Iowa than in those states. Iowa disproportionately white (swingy on abortion) and agricultural (hostile to tariffs).

Close Iowa does guarantee a Harris sweep in MI, WI, and PA, though. I think Trump will do well in Arizona, Nevada, Texas, and Florida with North Carolina and Georgia in the middle.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:11 am to
In a state that went Trump by 8+ points in 2020 (for 53% of the vote), this pollster got a sample where 81% of those polled said they’ve never supported Trump.

That doesn’t even make sense. In fact, if that’s true, Kamala should be much further ahead than 3 points.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:11 am to
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Yeah. I doubt Harris wins Iowa but I wouldn’t be shocked at all if she gets close there.



She won't. Emerson has it Trump +10.5. That lines up with the Early Vote data plus gain in registrations

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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:12 am to
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swingy on abortion


How does swingy on abortion hurt Trump?
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:15 am to
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She won't. Emerson has it Trump +10.5. That lines up with the Early Vote data plus gain in registrations


Maybe that’s closer to reality but if you look at Seltzer’s track record, she’s literally never missed. This would be the first time.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:18 am to
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but if you look at Seltzer’s track record, she’s literally never missed.


She missed the Iowa Governors race.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:19 am to
Wrong. She missed Kim Reynolds race. I don't care about track record anyway. Her credibility was gone in August when she did not release a poll because her bosses told her she couldn't. She admitted that on Halperins podcast
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:48 am to
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How does swingy on abortion hurt Trump?


Trump appointed the court that eviscerated Roe. We’ve already had an election on this and Dems overperformed—especially with white women.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:51 am to
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Wrong. She missed Kim Reynolds race.


She missed by 5 in that race. How far do you think she’s off here?
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:02 am to
Donald Trump will win Iowa by 8-12 points guaranteed. He won it in 2020 by 8 points when it was a D +2 electorate. Now in 2024 it is a R +8 electorate. Emerson a A+ rated pollster has it Trump +10.5, that lines up with the early data vote that shows a 12 point shift to Republicans from 2020
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