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re: Texas surge in Covid cases.....lies and deceit

Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:30 pm to
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I'd like to know how the count is done so rapidly every 24 hours with a state that has thousands of hospitals? My wife worked as an RN for 30 years and says statistics take at least 48-72 hours to get to a mainframe for registering data, so I too call BS!


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No one said there is a 24 hour turnaround. "New" cases are from tests that probably happened 4-7 days ago. In some cases much longer than that.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 1:43 pm
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:32 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Pooka
Member since Jun 2020
61 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:35 pm to
There is no way you can confidently say that the hospitals can handle the surge when cases are skyrocketing. If you’ve been paying attention, you’ll know they don’t have the staffing to open up more beds.

That’s the whole thing with this issue - people are making claims that it’s fine, when it clearly isn’t.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:37 pm to
So, you’re implying it’s a crisis yet you think we can have people back on campus and college sports?
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:37 pm to
Yep wheels is a major league cuck
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:42 pm to
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There is no way you can confidently say that the hospitals can handle the surge when cases are skyrocketing. If you’ve been paying attention, you’ll know they don’t have the staffing to open up more beds.


As of now, they are fine. They say they can handle several hundred more. They can also shut down elective surgeries to get more capacity.

You don’t know shite.
Posted by Pooka
Member since Jun 2020
61 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:46 pm to
Right now it’s a crisis. The cases are skyrocketing. The goal is to get it back down to manageable levels where we don’t see rising numbers of cases. Manageable is where you see the numbers falling consistently. Then you can go back to school. This is what the people on the Coronavirus task force are saying.

What doctors or scientists are telling you otherwise?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:47 pm to
None of that is realistic

If we are just going off of cases this will be a “crisis” for years as your overlords likely intend.

At some point you need to get ahold of yourself, realize you have testosterone, and understand that we cannot hide from this virus.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18119 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:49 pm to
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There is no way you can confidently say that the hospitals can handle the surge when cases are skyrocketing. If you’ve been paying attention, you’ll know they don’t have the staffing to open up more beds.


Here's a thought - sometimes shitty things happen. And just because a shitty thing might happen it doesn't make sense to make policy to make sure more shitty things happen. If any place encounters a situation where its medical facilities/personnel are truly overwhelmed by COVID, then we deal with that. We figure out the best way forward. We do the best job we can to treat those afflicted.

It makes zero sense to compound a potential crisis with a certain crisis of greater magnitude.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5116 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:49 pm to
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Right now it’s a crisis.


No, it's not. H1N1 cases in 2019 were growing at a pace 10 times higher than Covid. No one was screaming 'CASES!!!' then.

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The cases are skyrocketing.


Now do deaths.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Pooka
Member since Jun 2020
61 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:49 pm to
The people in the med center that I talk to say they are overwhelmed. I know that.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:50 pm to
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where we don’t see rising numbers of cases


That’s easy. Stop testing asymptomatic people.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111672 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:50 pm to
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The people in the med center that I talk to say they are overwhelmed.


The nurses?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by ThePoo
Work
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:52 pm to
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The goal is
if the virus has proven nothing else, it is that this phrase is meaningless
Posted by Pooka
Member since Jun 2020
61 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:54 pm to
No. Doctors and administrators.
Posted by Poncho and Lefty
Guntersville, AL
Member since Jul 2018
834 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:54 pm to
The problem with opening the schools is not the kids (although there will be I’m sure tragic results among the littles).

Schools become the vector that spreads the disease to households. It nullifies the isolating effects of shutdowns, WFH, and social isolation. Every time your kid sits in a close contact with 20 other likely asymptotic carriers in an ancient building with a creaky HVAC system, the chances of the disease spread goes through the roof. Little Johnny is most likely how your parents with COPD catch it. Not going to Gas ‘n Sip.


Immediately closing the schools in March is likely what helped the low infection states avoid the disease prior to reopening. Once it got loose in the schools in NYC and Italy, every household had it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111672 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:59 pm to
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Schools become the vector that spreads the disease to households.


What’s the transmission rate of children to adult for this Coronavirus?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111672 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:59 pm to
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Doctors and administrators.


Awesome. I will take your word for it.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45874 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 2:14 pm to
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if the virus has proven nothing else, it is that this phrase is meaningless
Correct.

Denton County, one of the four counties comprising the DFW metroplex:

Through June 10th there were 36 deaths out of a total of 1563 cases. That is one death in every 43.4 cases. That's a 2.3% mortality rate.

Since then, there has been 1 death and an additional 1759 cases. That's a current mortality rate of 0.057% in the last month, basically.

In fact, today marks 28 days, four-weeks, since a death in Denton County attributed to Covid-19.
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