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re: Texas mother kills 4 YO daughter after losing custody

Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:19 pm to
Women are emotional and, at large, mentally ill. What is surprising is this isn't happening more.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9693 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:32 pm to
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I don’t know if their numbers for child killings has risen or remained steady but it feels like steady


The numbers are steady for both sexes.

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But it seems that women who are naturally less violent are getting more violent. It looks like they are changing and the question is, why?


As far these child killing incidents in particular, it seems that way b/c the Clancy story got a lot of attention and the media is doing what it does when a story is "hot". But over all arrest rates for women in the United States rose 38% between 1980 and 2019, with arrests for violent crimes increasing by 70%.. That surprised me. Is it that police are arresting more women then they did in the past or are they really acting more violent would be my next question.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:34 pm to
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According to the Houston Police Department, at 5:45 p.m. on Monday, officers responded to the 300 block of Terra Reserve. HPD said it got a call about a shooting on the third floor of the home. Witnesses inside the home reported hearing the gunshots and forced their way into the 4-year-old's room. The father of the child has since identified her as Vivian Savalla.

At the scene, officers said they found Vivian dead from an apparent gunshot wound.

HPD said that officers detained Vivian's mother, who had reportedly shot herself in the face and was taken to the hospital. On Thursday, police said the mother was pronounced dead on Wednesday.

Sources close to the family told ABC13 that a family court judge had just granted Vivian's custody to her father, and she was supposed to be turned over to him Tuesday night.

According to the father's attorney, the court did not specify exactly how the custody exchange had to happen.




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HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- The father of a 4-year-old girl who police said was murdered by her own mother did everything the law asks of a parent to protect their child, according to a statement from his attorney's office.

In a statement, the family's attorney shared photos of 4-year-old Vivian Savella and said her dad trusted the courts, followed every order, and waited for the process to work.

The Houston Police Department said Vivian was found shot to death in west Houston on Tuesday night, and her mother allegedly turned the gun on herself but survived.

Sources close to the family told ABC13 that a family court judge had just granted Vivian's custody to her father, and she was supposed to be turned over to him Tuesday night.

Court documents said the father was awarded primary custody and the mother was, "awarded possession of the child only when continuously supervised."

According to the father's attorney, the court did not specify exactly how the custody exchange had to happen.

The attorney also told ABC13 that Vivian and her mom were required to be supervised while together, and that supervision would've come through the court-appointed agency.

ABC13 asked the attorney if that meant a supervisor should've been with Vivian and her mother yesterday, and if so, why a supervisor wasn't with them.

The attorney replied that because the decision on Vivian's custody had just been made, the agency responsible for supervision didn't even know about the case yet.
Posted by auie93
Auburn
Member since Jan 2021
896 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:37 pm to
Throw in the murdering of a child via abortion and that 57% for men drops substantially.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
118113 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:41 pm to
Too bad Hank isn't around to tell us how this is fine.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9693 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:51 pm to
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Women are emotional and, at large, mentally ill. What is surprising is this isn't happening more.


Properly treating mental illness and the over and uncoordinated prescribing of psychiatric medication is a problem for both men and women.

Clancy was on 10 different psychiatric medications prescribed over a five month period by 4 or 5 doctors that weren't coordinating well. Anyone one of these medications can potentially cause psychiatric problems and they are just prescribed willy-nilly....yet I cant get an opiate pain reliever anymore for back problem flare ups I had diagnosed 15 years ago because they are too dangerous because some folks get addicted. Hell you cant get Sudafed allergy medication without your name going in a database. If we can clamp down on over prescribing opioids, it seem like we could prevent folks getting on the psychiatric medication roller coasters as well.
This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 12:52 pm
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10562 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:53 pm to
How the hell can a person hurt a child like that...
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9693 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 1:01 pm to
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Throw in the murdering of a child via abortion and that 57% for men drops substantially.


If you believe the data majority of men support their partner's decisions to have an abortion...whats up with the all women are crazy monsters vibe on this board . Is it all because of the Clancy case?
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
20295 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 1:06 pm to
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Im pretty sure the dad did it.

Yeah
No way she did this. She was a Pisces
Dad definitely did it. He was a leo.
A LEO!!!
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
172522 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 1:20 pm to


When I saw the videos of the moms with crying babies, some spilling water on the babies saying they stand with Clancy...I didn't think it could get worse..

All's it takes is a few foreign bots to girate the grotesque foolishness and the duck lipped Karen's copycat...
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
12270 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 1:21 pm to
She wasnt actually taking any of them though. Didn't the tox report show she didnt have them in her system?
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
6107 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 1:29 pm to
Oh Dear God......not another child.

That's enough internet for today!
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
172522 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 1:52 pm to
SC mom stabbed her 2 children to their bones and beat them with a baseball bat.

What type of meds are these moms on?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
172522 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 1:55 pm to
She wasn't taking any of them. Her chief complaint was no sleep for 48 hours.

What was her issues not being able to sleep with ambien, xanax, and so forth?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
49236 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 1:55 pm to
This is exactly my thoughts on the Clancy case.

Kill the children along with myself to spite the ex.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
21614 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 1:57 pm to
Selfishness
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
2451 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 1:59 pm to
The guy in the photo was able to marry and divorce the woman in the photos. How?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
84322 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:00 pm to
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The guy in the photo was able to marry and divorce the woman in the photos. How?


I’m guessing $$$$$$$$$
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9693 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:22 pm to
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She wasnt actually taking any of them though. Didn't the tox report show she didnt have them in her system?


The evidence as I understood it was she was taking them off and on thoughout the 5 months prior to the murders but had stopped....

Evidence indicated she took only 7 of 30 Zoloft pills, 6 of 30 Ativan pills, 2 of 30 buspirone pills, and 3 of 30 hydroxyzine pills, with zero taken from a second buspirone refill etc.. how these drugs effect brain chemistry when stopping and starting or even when taken as prescribed is still not well understood. Im not advocating that they should not be prescribed or that Clancy bears no responsibility for her actions. I 've personally benefitted from one of those drugs years ago but have also had family members go from having mild depression to having to be hospitalized with psychosis due to simply upping the dosage of an SSRI. I just think their need to be tighter controls on their usage regardless if they were a contributing factor in the Clancy case or not.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
3703 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:24 pm to
Big Pharma gonna hold the line on SRRIs for as long as possible before the dam breaks like it did with opioids.
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