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re: Taya Kyle, wife of slain SEAL Chris Kyle, open letter to the NFL

Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:55 am to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61452 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:55 am to
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I would assume this is outside the time already required contractually, is it not?
What does the athlete get when he enters into this contract? Skittles?

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the player is not required to do charity work unless he agrees to the admendment in his service contract.
I never forgot it, it seems you did. Or whoever indicated that almost every NFL player was involved in charity work. You specifically mentioned charity fundraisers.


Most NFL teams dont even allow these appearances during the season, and if so only on amazingly limited basis.

Believe me, I have written checks to these assholes for their appearances.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:55 am to
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Small Christian SChool on the Southside of Jacksonville florida in an area called Mandarin. It's not far from Wing it, Publix, CVS, Winn-Dixie, McDonalds, BP, Lowes. They are getting a new fieldhouse in a couple of years. The last fundraiser set aside money for that fieldhouse. They have a pretty good baseball team and football team for their size but would get crushed by Bolles.

Now, kindly, piss off.
That's nice. Look. Here is an article about Tebow appearing at a storm shelter. Guess he must have been paid to go there, right?

Regardless, even if you find events he was paid to do, that doesn't in any logical world mean that he doesn't do things for free or for charity in general.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:56 am to
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a flag is an inanimate object which cannot feel disrespect


The flag represents the country, the country can feel disrespected.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17137 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:57 am to
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She's melting over Americans citizens exercising the right granted to them by the U.S. Constitution.




While they may have that right they will also suffer the consequences of those people who feel it is an insult.

I understand some of these people (not the protesters but regular people who protest) feel that they have not had a fair shake in this country. That may be true, however there is no other country on earth that gives everyone the opportunities that are available in America.

Any one can make a great life for themselves in America. If you study hard, dont do drugs, dont become a parent before you can afford to raise that child... Many of these protesters (not players again) are just looking for someone to blame for their bad situation, a situation that they are responsible for. Instead of accepting blame for their bad decisions they blame whitey, the police, rich people, or Nick Saban for their bad fortunes.

Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158004 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:01 am to
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Guess he must have been paid to go there, right?


Wrong.

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even if you find events he was paid to do, that doesn't in any logical world mean that he doesn't do things for free or for charity in general.


No shite.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61452 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:02 am to
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I understand some of these people (not the protesters but regular people who protest) feel that they have not had a fair shake in this country. That may be true, however there is no other country on earth that gives everyone the opportunities that are available in America.


I dont care if you are disgruntled, take 5 minutes and honor the country that provides you protection and opportunity. You can spend the rest of your time fighting injustices that exist.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61452 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:11 am to
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Oddly enough the Confederate crowd is the most likely to balk at someone flying a Mexican flag over their house in America.

I figure you just pulled that out of your arse.

But, what does that have to do with anything. I would imagine that the BLM crowd would be most upset about the confederate flag too. Doesnt mean that the Mexican family or the Confederate flag fans should be forced to remove them or harassed regarding their heritage.

Now, if they are flying either above the American flag, I personally would have a problem.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56883 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:19 am to
I find it utterly insane that there is so much faux outrage over all of this. For people to make this about the military is stupid. It has absolutely zero to do with the military.

I could understand if you boycotted the NFL for allowing women beaters to play. But a peaceful protest? That seems totally twisted to me.

Everyone has the right to vote with their pocketbooks, and I have no problem with that obviously, but I just can't understand the total outrage over this, and the reach to think that this has anything to do with the military.





This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:21 am
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:21 am to
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Irrational? People of all races have fought, bled, and died for our flag. Ignorance is not a virtue Big12fan. Symbols are important. Our nation's flag is important and these morons are insulting it. I take offense and so do millions of other Americans.


Well if the flag represents the military, then it also represents other components of our country, like the CIA for instance, which has overthrown sovereign governments, intentionally infected black Americans with syphilis, supported corrupt regimes throughout the world, and put American fighting men in harm's way under false pretenses, just to name a few of the offensive acts. The American flag represent all of America with its warts, failures, and shortcomings. Many men died because of political lies. The flag represent both good and bad and everything in between about this country.

You just want to impose your extreme view of political correctness on everyone. It doesn't work.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
63534 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:25 am to
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Football was really a metaphor for our ideal world -- different backgrounds, talents, political beliefs and histories as one big team with one big goal -- to do well, to win, TOGETHER.



aka how America should behave
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64370 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:31 am to
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I donate to OneJax
"OneJax is a nonprofit organization that seeks to promote diversity as the foundation for a strong community."


So what exactly do they do to "promote diversity"?

And how does that tangibly help society?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158004 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:32 am to
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You just want to impose your extreme view of political correctness on everyone. It doesn't work.


Extreme? lol

He's not imposing anything on anyone by stating a valid opinion on a message board. This place isn't affecting the kneelers and fist waivers at all.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102793 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:33 am to
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IRS doesn't recognize hookers and blow as charitable donations. Sorry.



Well they should

The money goes to help single moms and poor brown people in 3rd world countries
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:34 am
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42088 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:37 am to
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frick the NFL


Feel the same way. I always go to 1 or two games a year but I just don't care anymore. I refused to turn it on Sunday or Monday.

They can do whatever they want but I won't watch for awhile although I will probably cave eventually. Just one man's opinion.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:41 am to
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For people to make this about the military is stupid.


Most arent, Taya Kyle didnt either.

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but I just can't understand the total outrage over this


Let me help you out then. People know the players arent protesting the military. There is a widespread movement from the left that has been building for years that asserts that whites are consciously or unconsciously oppressing blacks. It is a false narrative that this country is racist and systematically holding back blacks. This essentially is what the players are protesting.

Protesting during the national anthem is deliberately insulting this country to make a point. Groups like BLM, Antifa, Westboro, White Supremacists, etc do things like this to get attention.

Everyday Americans are sick of it. Its one thing for it to be on the news every day, you can turn that off. Its another thing to use what people view as an escape from politics to protest...especially when that protest is directly attacking them based off of a false narrative.

Hope this helps
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:48 am to
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I cancelled my NFL subscription and will not watch another game until those people all apologize for the insult to this great nation. Simper Fi to all real Americans.


It is nothing but political correctness. Basically he is saying that only real Americans respect the country. It is a false standard based on an extreme opinion.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56883 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:07 am to
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Most arent, Taya Kyle didnt either.



So the reason her opinion is being pushed and shared isn't because she is the widow of a prominent veteran? Okay.


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Let me help you out then. People know the players arent protesting the military.


Then why do I see hundreds of posts everywhere claiming that they are disrespecting the military with their peaceful protest, if people know this?


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There is a widespread movement from the left that has been building for years that asserts that whites are consciously or unconsciously oppressing blacks. It is a false narrative that this country is racist and systematically holding back blacks. This essentially is what the players are protesting. Protesting during the national anthem is deliberately insulting this country to make a point. Groups like BLM, Antifa, Westboro, White Supremacists, etc do things like this to get attention. Everyday Americans are sick of it. Its one thing for it to be on the news every day, you can turn that off. Its another thing to use what people view as an escape from politics to protest...especially when that protest is directly attacking them based off of a false narrative.


This is all well and fine, but this whole thing was powderkegged because of Trump's foolish, childish statements. He only made this situation worse, which is the complete opposite of what the PoTUS is supposed to do.

At the end of the day, people are going fricking insane over a peaceful protest over police accountability. My opinion is that the lack of accountability affects people of all colors, but all of this outrage is just as attention whoring as the protests.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 11:09 am
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158004 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:11 am to
You are free to have that opinion. I disagree. You are setting standards as well in case you didn't notice.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18407 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:14 am to
Chris Kyle; didn't read
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:25 am to
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Then why do I see hundreds of posts everywhere claiming that they are disrespecting the military with their peaceful protest, if people know this?




Because they are disrespecting the military, the flag, the anthem, and the country. That is the point of kneeling, to get people worked up.

The military isnt the subject of their protest.

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This is all well and fine, but this whole thing was powderkegged because of Trump's foolish, childish statements.


Call his comments what they are, he is forcing the left to own up to their childish behavior. The left certainly cant be reasoned with on an adult level, especially when they only operate on a purely emotional level.
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