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Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:33 am to salty1
Yeah, we have not seen that.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:34 am to shallowminded
Just dropping this for reference:
Sad, no - pathetic state of affairs.
Sad, no - pathetic state of affairs.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:35 am to tigerpawl
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I can’t get rid of this picture in my head of innocent non-Afghans being executed right there on the tarmac at the airport…. and the ensuing uproar.
The US-held staging area side of the airport is behind US-troop guarded barbed wire.
Richard Engel is still giving live reports inside Kabul though. He has some balls.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 8:36 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:39 am to tigerpawl
Has anyone heard from the White House Press Secretary, POTUS, or VP?
Are they awake? Do they have comms?
Are they awake? Do they have comms?
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:39 am to GetCocky11
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The US-held staging area side of the airport is behind US-troop guarded barbed wire.
But the tarmac has been breached.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:39 am to Monkeyboy
30 years ago I was in the Middle East. I was 19 years old and even I recognized that a Democratic form of government wouldn’t work over in that neck of the woods. Anyone that has spent any time over there will tell you the same thing.
This is no surprise and should have been accounted for. This is a military, foreign policy and humanitarian disaster and it all falls solely on the Biden administration.
It’s like moving from a home and you didn’t pack when the truck shows up. No one doubts you need to move but how it was handled is a disaster.
This is no surprise and should have been accounted for. This is a military, foreign policy and humanitarian disaster and it all falls solely on the Biden administration.
It’s like moving from a home and you didn’t pack when the truck shows up. No one doubts you need to move but how it was handled is a disaster.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:41 am to MrLSU
Are we sure Biden is still alive? I simply can't imagine the reasoning behind the entire world watching this unfold over the last three days and not even having a statement let alone a prepared speech for the country.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:42 am to eitek1
I’m very conservative and voted for Trump twice, but this doesn’t fall solely on Biden. It falls on Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. Wouldn’t hurt for Biden to at least be present though.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:42 am to eitek1
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30 years ago I was in the Middle East. I was 19 years old and even I recognized that a Democratic form of government wouldn’t work over in that neck of the woods. Anyone that has spent any time over there will tell you the same thing.
Talked to a few guys who did some time over there and this was basically what they said. They knew the government would never work but not go up in flames likes this.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:43 am to LarryCLE
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this doesn’t fall solely on Biden.
Botching the withdrawal is on Biden’s watch.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:45 am to LarryCLE
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I’m very conservative and voted for Trump twice, but this doesn’t fall solely on Biden. It falls on Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. Wouldn’t hurt for Biden to at least be present though.
oh FFS, Biden is the Commander in Chief. He has had more than ample time to handle this and all signs point to him talking out of his arse.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:45 am to LarryCLE
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I’m very conservative and voted for Trump twice, but this doesn’t fall solely on Biden. It falls on Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. Wouldn’t hurt for Biden to at least be present though.
Correct, although Biden pledged to undo Trump's efforts in a matter of days, so any claim that he couldn't change the course of the Afghanistan withdrawal is hollow.
This debacle is on him, but yes, it was always going to be ugly. This ugly? Seems unlikely.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:45 am to eitek1
quote:No, it falls on every administration involved in the invasion and occupation since 2001. Withdrawal was the right call, and Biden should be credited with that. The execution of the withdrawal, however, is a total disaster, and that falls solely on him.
This is a military, foreign policy and humanitarian disaster and it all falls solely on the Biden administration.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:47 am to BearCrocs
quote:We haven't even heard that much.
all signs point to him talking out of his arse.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:47 am to Asharad
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As soon as we learned that the Taliban was walking over the Afghan Army... YES
Very dumb idea.
We need an audit of where all this money that was supposed to be propping up the Afghan army went.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 8:48 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:48 am to LarryCLE
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I’m very conservative and voted for Trump twice, but this doesn’t fall solely on Biden. It falls on Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. Wouldn’t hurt for Biden to at least be present though.
It's completely on Biden. He's been CIC since January which is plenty of time to come up with some kind of a plan for a withdrawal yet its obvious he has absolutely none at all. Combine that with the total silence from his administration during this and it's grounds for impeachment
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:49 am to member12
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Has anyone heard from the White House Press Secretary, POTUS, or VP?
Are they awake? Do they have comms?
I already said they're on vacation and that they'd circle back around in a couple weeks when they get back.
What more do you want? They're on vacation.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 8:50 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:thinking that wishing an administration fricks up and embarrasses a country is stupid and dumb? That has nothing to do with political party but being a decent American. It’s amazing how people (deservedly so) griped about democrats doing it in the last administration and then turn around and do the same shite. Just to “prove a point”.
Good to know how you feel about Democrats.
By the looks of it it doesn’t matter what anyone wishes for anyway, dementia is gonna do his damndest to make a shite show out of this.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
Everyone knows this wouldn't be happening in quite this manner if trump was president
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