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re: Taking rights away from people has never made society better, agree or disagree?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:25 pm to RedDirtSooner
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:25 pm to RedDirtSooner
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I’m no longer a supporter of the death penalty. Read too many cases that have been overturned. If it was a clear and cut case of guilty I would support it but I just don’t have enough faith in people to do the right thing.
I’m mostly with you there
I do think the death penalty is acceptable in certain cases however
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:25 pm to Tiger1242
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It’s the other way around.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:25 pm to Tiger1242
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How do you feel about the death penalty?
I’m against it.
Self defense / time of war.
Other than that, I don’t abide.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:29 pm to RebelOP
Instead of posting emojis have a conversation with me, what rights are you in fair of the government taking away?
The right to own slaves was mentioned earlier but we can move on from that since it is an obvious one everyone agrees on, what else?
The right to own slaves was mentioned earlier but we can move on from that since it is an obvious one everyone agrees on, what else?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:34 pm to Tiger1242
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I’m just looking to have a good debate/conversation
Pro-tip: don’t say stupid shite like this:
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You feel defensive because
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:34 pm to Tiger1242
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Taking rights away
You’re right.
Please stop taking away the right of life from the unborn.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:35 pm to Tiger1242
I'm trying, but you're not being clear.
Because abortion is murder, I am in favor of the government taking away the right to abort. This preserves another human being's life and rights.
Do you agree or disagree?
Because abortion is murder, I am in favor of the government taking away the right to abort. This preserves another human being's life and rights.
Do you agree or disagree?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:42 pm to RebelOP
I think it’s a little more complicated than that. I’m not personally in favor of abortion for my family but I’m also not in favor of it being illegal for everyone.
I’m also aware that isn’t what happened today and the legality of abortion is left to the states, I’m just stating my thoughts
I’m also aware that isn’t what happened today and the legality of abortion is left to the states, I’m just stating my thoughts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:47 pm to Tiger1242
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what rights are you in fair of the government taking away?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
If these words don’t light a fire in every American and are not worth protecting with everything you have than we are lost as a country.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:48 pm to Tiger1242
Bad faith discussion is bad
Stop pretending you aren’t trying to rope a dope someone into a cool gotcha and maybe actual insight can be found
Stop pretending you aren’t trying to rope a dope someone into a cool gotcha and maybe actual insight can be found
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:48 pm to Tiger1242
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How do you feel about the death penalty?
I believe God says abortions are immoral.
I don't believe God says the death penalty is immoral.
Pretty simple.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:03 am to Tiger1242
Abortion isn’t and never has been a right
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:04 am to Tiger1242
I’m going to take away your right to drive drunk.
Does that make society better or worse?
I’m going to take away your right to abuse your kid.
Is society better or worse?
Does that make society better or worse?
I’m going to take away your right to abuse your kid.
Is society better or worse?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:52 am to Tiger1242
People gained rights today - the right to have their voices heard in their state elections.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:17 am to Tiger1242
Your premise is flawed because at no point has abortion ever been a right that was guaranteed by the constitution. Therefore you can’t take away something that never was.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 2:36 am to Tiger1242
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Taking rights away from people has never made society better, agree or disagree?
Well it depends. The American public tends to frick things up if you don't have some kind of limits as to what people can do. It is the rule of never being able to have anything nice because people ruin shite, so then comes the rules or restrictions because people cannot control themselves.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:32 am to Tiger1242
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Wow these responses are insane
Wow, you are a moronic idiot because your post suggests that you think people's rights were taken away with the Roe v Wade reversal.
Several posters have asked this question:
What rights were taken away?
You have refused to answer the previous questions so I assume you will not answer mine either.
You whine at the responses to your idiotic post, yet refuse to answer a simple question related to your post.
Why?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:51 am to Tiger1242
So if you and I have a disagreement about something, and I consider your opinion to be an annoyance, me killing you would be justified?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:18 am to Tiger1242
If you really want a discussion about “rights” name the right you are thinking about or want to discuss. Every right has a different basis of reason for that right. Freedom of the press is much different from the right to have a gun. Smaller government in a moral civilized society is always a good thing but when a 2 party system are complete opposite ends of the spectrum in civility and morally then each right has to be debated and discussed individually. A general question of rights being taken away is a gotcha question regardless of of the right. One side will agree one way and the other side will disagree. Every issue is so polarized there is no reaching across the aisle. So just stop with the bull shite I just want a discussions about general rights.
Ok you want a general answer yes constitutional rights established specifically by the constitution on this day 06/25/2022 are bad to be taken away.
But even some of those will get multiple discussions much like taxation. I don’t think the federal government should receive taxation outside of anything other then a very small subsidy for income that politicians should return to their normal jobs after 1-2 terms and for national defense.
So nothing about any right can be generalized as good or bad. So just spit out what right you want to discuss because multiple people have shot holes in rights being either good or bad considering the context of the right.
Ok you want a general answer yes constitutional rights established specifically by the constitution on this day 06/25/2022 are bad to be taken away.
But even some of those will get multiple discussions much like taxation. I don’t think the federal government should receive taxation outside of anything other then a very small subsidy for income that politicians should return to their normal jobs after 1-2 terms and for national defense.
So nothing about any right can be generalized as good or bad. So just spit out what right you want to discuss because multiple people have shot holes in rights being either good or bad considering the context of the right.
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