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re: Taking rights away from people has never made society better, agree or disagree?

Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:48 am to
Posted by JohnArton
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:48 am to
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This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 5:10 am
Posted by JohnArton
Member since Mar 2022
21 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:49 am to
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This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 5:10 am
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
21221 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:25 am to
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Giving people less rights


“Rights” are not granted by governments.

They are granted by God.

Our constitution restricts the government, not the individual.

There is no “right” to ice cream.
The constitution does not address it except it states that IF it is not addressed in the constitution, it is left to the states.

In general, the states decide most things- basically anything not in the constitution.

The Supreme Court does not decide “rights”, it interprets laws and whether that law violates the constitution.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138873 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:32 am to
quote:

Taking rights away from people has never made society better, agree or disagree?
Disagree strongly.
Slaveholders had their rights taken away.

In fact quite often rights bestowed to one, are rights taken from another, and vise versa.

In the instance of abortion, rights taken from the mother are bestowed to her infant. Rights removed from Federal purview are ceded to the states.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18598 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:51 am to
Agree. It's part of the reason society has devolved over the last few decades. RvW started a trend of dehumanizing the most vulnerable of our society and taking away their right to live.

Killing the young is now celebrated and if you criticize it, you're being evil.

I don't even understand how the government had the ability to give out the right to freely take another's life. It's like how our country used to give out the right to keep other human beings as slaves.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21137 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:54 am to
The right to kill a human baby was never really a right.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
1x tRant Poster of the Millennium
Member since Jan 2014
31776 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 6:32 am to
Killing unborn babies, or whatever you want to call it, was never a right.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22952 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:50 am to
What right has been taken away? You can still abort in a friendly abort state. It has been tough since 1973 when my rights were taken away and an unconstitutional law was mandated. Yep, society started killing whatever it could with abandon.

My great grandparents rights were taken away in New York over 100 years ago when they were told they could not constitutionally carry. Yep, New York became a mess.

So, when does a right becomea right? Who or what makes a right a right? You, me, God, or GOOBERMENT?
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
21038 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:42 am to
Did….

Did.
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50981 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:44 am to
Murdering someone whether inside or outside the womb has never been a right.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22469 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:45 am to
Nobody is trying to take away your right to be a phag.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23171 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:45 am to
There is no right to murder a child.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22469 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:46 am to
your kids are humans and citizens.
Posted by ChasseurNC
Member since Feb 2022
625 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:47 am to
Your premise is wrong idiot. Abortion was never a right.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:50 am to
There has to be standards and values and principles in every culture or society. Without them things fall apart very quickly. It can’t be just a free for all where everyone does whatever the hell they want. That creates massive instability

It’s also important to continue to value human life. Almost every culture or society that devalued human life in the past ended up with mass atrocities. It’s not a road you want to go down.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73605 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:50 am to
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Taking rights away from people has never made society better, agree or disagree?


A little over 150 years ago we had the right to own other human beings in chattel slavery. Are you saying we should still have that right?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55481 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 11:08 am to
Disagree. We took away the right of strong men to murder others and take their wealth and women. That certainly made society better. Civil society itself is the taking of rights to allow citizens to exit barbarity.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 11:09 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55481 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 11:10 am to
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What rights were taken away?

Rights were not directly taken away, but the ruling allowed states to take away rights. The entire issue is a balancing of rights - the baby’s right to life and the mother’s right to reproductive freedom.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31094 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 11:11 am to
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Taking rights away from people has never made society better, agree or disagree?
Define right.
If it's abortion you're referring to, are we talking about the mother's, or the baby's rights?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115371 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 11:14 am to
Improvidently "granted" rights based upon an intentionally erroneous reading of the Constitution should not be maintained to avoid hurting fee fees.

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