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Study: Temp adjustments account for ‘Nearly all of Warming’ In climate data

Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:48 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34168 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:48 am
tsk, tsk, tsk

Can't have a climate crisis if you don't eff with the data. That explains why EVERY climate model was wrong. They were inputting adjusted data to get their warming trend, rather than the actual numbers.

Oh, and before you get your panties in a wad
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The peer-reviewed study

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The new study doesn’t question the adjustments themselves but notes nearly all of them increase the warming trend.

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“Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever – despite current claims of record setting warming,” according to a study published June 27 by two scientists and a veteran statistician.

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However, each new version of GAST has nearly always exhibited a steeper warming linear trend over its entire history. That was accomplished by systematically removing the previously existing cyclical temperature pattern. This was true for all three entities providing GAST data measurement, NOAA, NASA and Hadley CRU.

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The conclusive findings of this research are that the three GAST data sets are not a valid representation of reality. In fact, the magnitude of their historical data adjustments, that removed their cyclical temperature patterns, are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.

Its all bullshite. A contrived hoax

And also before you pee in your pants about its origins, this team consists of scientists from the EPA, MIT, NASA, a Fulbright Scholar, and also from our very own ULL

LINK

Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18109 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:49 am to
It's a complete fraud.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46786 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:50 am to
I initially read the title as "Trump adjustments account for..." and got confused for a second.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:50 am to
But there is a guy in Fairbanks, Alaska that works on ice cores that says it's all true.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
14117 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:51 am to
But muh climate deniers. Man made climate change is such a hoax.
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:51 am to
it won't matter global warming ...scratch that...climate change is their baby jesus sky god.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34168 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:51 am to
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I initially read the title as "Trump adjustments account for..." and got confused for a second.

I certainly can understand, because Trump is turning up the heat on CNN. They may be completely melted by the fall
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:55 am to
I'll be honest, I have no idea what to believe about this topic. And that's sad.

It's a no brainer that we should take care of the planet through some simple sustainable measures.

It's ridiculous that data is fudged to create fear and waste money on things that have no impact.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46786 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:58 am to
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It's ridiculous that data is fudged to create fear and waste money on things that have no impact.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34168 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:01 am to
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I have no idea what to believe about this topic.

You already said all you need to know
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It's ridiculous that data is fudged
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:02 am to
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But there is a guy in Fairbanks, Alaska that works on ice cores that says it's all true.


Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:04 am to
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I'll be honest, I have no idea what to believe about this topic. And that's sad.

It's a no brainer that we should take care of the planet through some simple sustainable measures.

It's ridiculous that data is fudged to create fear and waste money on things that have no impact.



I believe the biggest step forward is simply carbon sequestration. Why Leo DiCaprio and all his cronies aren't building carbon sequestration facilities is beyond me. It's not about fixing the issue, it's about punishing the other side.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52556 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:07 am to
Somewhere, SpideyTuba is in the corner sucking his thumb.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:11 am to
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The new study doesn’t question the adjustments themselves but notes nearly all of them increase the warming trend.
Opens study

CTRL+F "ICOADS" and gets no results



If your claim is that "nearly all of warming" in climate data is from adjustments, one would think that you would have to include ocean data, since that's, you know, most of the earth's surface. But they don't include any graphs or quantification of the adjustments made to ICOADS (the raw ocean data) in HadSST or ERSST (the two major homogenized ocean series).

I wonder why they might not be keen to include that?



Oh, right, because the major adjustments to the ocean data warm the past and therefore show less present-day warming.

So instead they just cherry-pick a bunch of land records with no rhyme or reason and shite out a glorified WUWT blog post. What journal was this crap published in? E&E?
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 11:15 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44382 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:14 am to
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It's a no brainer that we should take care of the planet through some simple sustainable measures.




It's the one thing that I think most could agree on: we should be doing everything we can to minimize our impact on the environment. That should be done on an individual level and not at a gov't level. Consumers will decide where this goes.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138621 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:22 am to
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because the major adjustments to the ocean data warm the past
Why would they do that, pray tell?

Perhaps something to do with recent inclusion of engine intake (physically much warmer) measurements on freighters vs exclusive past use of ocean buoys?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:26 am to
Soo...

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So which dire, doom and gloom, predictions that these "scientists" have made in the last half century have come true? If, in the passage of time, the data doesn't match the hypothesis, then the hypothesis needs to be thrown out as useless or modify it and try again. Don't you agree?
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:28 am to
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Perhaps something to do with recent inclusion of engine intake (physically much warmer) measurements on freighters vs exclusive past use of ocean buoys?
Buoys are fairly recent and the adjustment you refer to was an order of magnitude smaller and exclusively affected the last few years. The big adjustment you see illustrated in the graph (which as far as I know has been around as long as homogenized sea records have been a thing) is a bucket-engine adjustment.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38303 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:28 am to
Al Gore scoffs at this report from his Gulfstream as it taxis up the runway to his next PowerPoint presentation on why you're ruining the globe.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:32 am to
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So which dire, doom and gloom, predictions that these "scientists" have made in the last half century have come true?
Which dire, doom and gloom predictions are you referring to? Please use your words and do not hastily google and copy/paste a list, which will be inaccurate and/or larded with predictions from non-"scientists" like Al Gore (or non-climate scientists like Ehrlich).
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 11:35 am
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