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re: Study: Temp adjustments account for ‘Nearly all of Warming’ In climate data

Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:37 am to
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:37 am to
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Which dire, doom and gloom predictions are you referring to?


All of them. Surely you've heard them...or most of them? Which ones have you heard of?
*Please don't play dumb..you'll just validate your bias*
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:38 am to
Fake Science
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:38 am to
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Which dire, doom and gloom predictions are you referring to?
Ice-free arctic.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:40 am to
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All of them. Surely you've heard them...or most of them? Which ones have you heard of?
I'm aware of any predictions I'd qualify as "doom and gloom" that were expected to prove out by 2017.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:44 am to
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I'm aware of any predictions I'd qualify as "doom and gloom" that were expected to prove out by 2017.

Wow
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:45 am to
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I'm aware of any predictions I'd qualify as "doom and gloom" that were expected to prove out by 2017.

You're dodging. I never qualified "by 2017" (that said many were predicted to doom the planet long before 2017).

Using your criteria..whatever that may be..what are some of the dire predictions that were made?
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:46 am to
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Ice-free arctic.
Maslowski's predictions were not well-regarded among most scientists at the time, as a cursory comparison of his projections vs the IPCC consensus projections shows. Given that this was a case where a scientist's bad prediction was properly rejected by his peers, I'm not sure how it translates to a broader indictment of the AGW hypothesis. The system worked, to the extent we're looking at actual published research and not Al Gore's fat mouth.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 11:47 am
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:49 am to
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You're dodging. I never qualified "by 2017" (that said many were predicted to doom the planet long before 2017).
It's implicit in your argument:
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So which dire, doom and gloom, predictions that these "scientists" have made in the last half century have come true?
Asking for predictions that "have come true" means by definition we're looking at predictions of stuff before 2017. Obviously we're not in a position to evaluate the truth or falsity of predictions made for 2050.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 11:50 am
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:50 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:50 am to
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Given that this was a case where a scientist's bad prediction was properly rejected by his peers
You might want to examine some of those contemporary critiques. They centered much more on timeframe realization of impact when said predictions did not pan out.

. . . and so, here we are.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:50 am to
It's 93 in Cenla today, in July. The world is melting a-hole
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:53 am to
quote:

I'm aware of any predictions I'd qualify as "doom and gloom" that were expected to prove out by 2017.


You try to pass yourself off as qualified to speak on the subject then post this?

Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:54 am to
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It's implicit in your argument:


No it isn't.

What does seem to be implicit in your argument is that none were made that claimed negative consequences before 2017. You know that is bullshite.

quote:

Asking for predictions that "have come true" means by definition we're looking at predictions of stuff before 2017. Obviously we're not in a position to evaluate the truth or falsity of predictions made for 2050.


This is another attempt to deflect.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:54 am to
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Maslowski's predictions were not well-regarded among most scientists at the time, as a cursory comparison of his projections vs the IPCC consensus projections shows. Given that this was a case where a scientist's bad prediction was properly rejected by his peers, I'm not sure how it translates to a broader indictment of the AGW hypothesis. The system worked, to the extent we're looking at actual published research and not Al Gore's fat mouth

You're actually going to just sit there and pretend that even NASA didn't put out the Ice Free Arctic meme?

Yeah.

I mean, it's not like you can find HUNDREDS of stories from every single one of the Global Warming usual suspects out there.

Nah. Can't do that. We'll just pretend some random guy was wrong.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:56 am to
And I suppose we're just going to pretend that they haven't REPEATEDLY had to change their models in reaction to actual data that didn't conform to prior model predictions.

Yeah. We'll just pretend that too.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 12:00 pm to
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You're actually going to just sit there and pretend that even NASA didn't put out the Ice Free Arctic meme?
I don't think NASA put out anything about an ice free arctic by Maslowski's date, no. I'm sure there's at least some stuff reflecting the mid-century consensus, but that's too early to evaluate.

It is not escaping my notice that these "you can't REALLY be saying that" posts are heavy on emoji and bereft of links.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 12:01 pm to
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What does seem to be implicit in your argument is that none were made that claimed negative consequences before 2017. You know that is bullshite.
"Negative consequences" is a substantial goalpost move from "doom and gloom."
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 12:02 pm to
College Station summer so far 2 degrees cooler compared to 2016

#warmingtrend
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 12:03 pm to
I rarely follow this climate debate, so I don't have much to add. I am, however, curious as to why the chart you posted stopped in 2010. It seems that each line got to 2005, then began to trend downward over the next five years.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 12:07 pm to
Man, you're going to stand on the warming hoax for good.
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