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re: Study shows Pot is starting to effect healthcare and educational costs
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:40 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:40 am to ShortyRob
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OP to come out as looking basically like this
The not so funny part is that there are many, many people who look
Politicians? Not so much. Whether MJ is good, bad, or toxic does not fit an agenda at this current time.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:42 am to auggie
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Alcohol has been around for thousands of years,it was available to people before education was possible. It was already a problem. Same with tobacco.Yes,weed has been around a long time too,but never nearly as popular.
That's a whole lot of ignorance in one post.
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If you want to get weed totally legalized,you have to stop claiming that it is totally safe.
I have yet to see anyone say it has no side effects and in no way effects anyone? Is that what you're claiming? Of course it's not 100% safe in every situation and every application.
You shouldn't smoke while you're pregnant or operating heavy machinery or doing you job. You shouldn't really do any substance, but people do their jobs on caffeine, and nicotine, and xanex, and abilify, and pain killers, and all sorts of legal uppers and downers.
However, it is 100% overdose proof and it is 100% physically addictive proof and it is unbelievably safer than alcohol, tobacco, or prescription narcotics
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 11:46 am
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
One guy supporting keeping cannabis criminalized vs the rest of the pot loving Poliboard. The worm has definitely turned on this one.
And so much for "this board" being a bunch of super social conservative nutbags.
And so much for "this board" being a bunch of super social conservative nutbags.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:46 am to lsufball19
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I've never heard that before this thread and I doubt white trash pregnant women smoking pot have relied on such studies to make their choice. That involves reading and following the news very closely, something I'll go out on a limb and say the majority don't.
I am referring to pro weed sites and places on the left like Daily Beast. etc
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:47 am to bird35
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Study shows pregnant teenage girls make higher percentage of poor choices than non pregnant counterparts.
24 is teen now?
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:48 am to auggie
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You can't just put it on the market,with everyone believing that it is 100% safe.Any company that did that,would find themselves in huge lawsuits pretty fast.You would have to give all of the negatives up front.
For the life of me, I don't know anyone who thinks weed should be made available for the developing brain (with an exception to medicinally).
And, the argument that it's safer than the legal alcohol isn't an argument. It's scientific fact. So, the whole "Do we want another similar mistake?" needs to be thrown out the conversation.
No mind altering substance (with the medicinal exception) should be readily available for children or adults under 21 (maybe this needs to be looked at again too).
And, for the life of me, I cannot understand conservatives who just a few decades back argued against moving the age limit for alcohol (and it still needs to be done for tobacco) and now their against the decriminalization of MJ.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:49 am to Stingray
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How bout we stop paying for other people's kids? That is the evil that is corrupting the nation, not pot.
That would only be a start of an argument that could justify the over all negative effect on those non users.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:49 am to Breesus
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it is 100% overdose proof
Tell that to the families of the hundreds who fatally overdose yearly according to jdoc.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:50 am to Jjdoc
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You just friggin ignored the whole subject of it being promoted as a safe herb for an argument between moderate and frequent?
No, you ignored their words because you want them to fit your narrative.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:51 am to Jjdoc
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Now we will have to deal with the cost of Pot babies in healthcare and in education due to learning disabilities
So...soon?

Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:51 am to jptiger2009
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For the life of me, I don't know anyone who thinks weed should be made available for the developing brain (with an exception to medicinally).
I contend age 21, ideally 25.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:51 am to Breesus
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it is 100% overdose proof
while I tend to agree, I don't fully agree with this. Not only has there been a potential death to a baby in Colorado but there's also very little data to back this claim.
It doesn't shouldn't change the narrative though when comparing it to alcohol.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:52 am to Jjdoc
Honestly I don't know why researchers aren't investigating whether smoking weed in utero makes the kid autistic
Ever since these states have started saying it's cool to use dope the autism rates have skyrocketed
Ever since these states have started saying it's cool to use dope the autism rates have skyrocketed
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:52 am to Jjdoc
I smoked while I was pregnant and my baby came out fine, thank you.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:55 am to jptiger2009
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I don't fully agree with this. Not only has there been a potential death to a baby in Colorado
It's 100% overdose proof to a developed adult.
There are plenty of seemingly innocuous things that can kill babies and shouldn't be introduced to juvenile developing minds.
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very little data to back this claim.
other than the fact that its almost impossible and it's never been done ever?
Other estimates say that a smoker “would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within 15 minutes to induce a lethal response” or “smoke 20 to 40,000 joints with .9 grams of weed each before dying.”
How much is too much? Here are a few median lethal doses to consider:
Cocaine: 1.2 grams
Oxycodone: 80 mg (in a single dose)
Heroin: 75-375 mg (depending on potency)
Sugar: 1,100 mg/kg
Marijuana: 1,260 mg/kg (pure THC)
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 11:58 am
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:55 am to HempHead
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I smoked while I was pregnant and my baby came out fine, thank you.
I know you're full of shite, but sure, there are a hell of a lot of uninformed dumbasses in Alabama who believe just that.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:57 am to HempHead
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I smoked while I was pregnant and my baby came out fine, thank you.
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Alabama
Meth is safe. It's marihuana that's dangerous
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:57 am to jptiger2009
It should be a given that a woman ought not ingest anything during pregnancy that she wouldn't give to a newborn. Unfortunately, we all subsidize the bad decisions of others due to the way we distribute healthcare goods/services.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So there's no link showing increased costs, you made that up.
Dont be a simple minded person. It would be like you saying that democrats moving people to welfare will cost people more in taxes.
Each year, the Usa spends billions in special needs education. Lets take Michagan. The state spend right at a Billion on just those with learning disabilities. The feds throw in about 500 million.... a total of 1.5 billion.
Multiply that by 50.
Please dont insult your own intelligence by saying that kids who, through mo fault of their own, have learning disabilities will not cost the nation more.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:59 am to Breesus
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Other estimates say that a smoker “would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within 15 minutes to induce a lethal response” or “smoke 20 to 40,000 joints with .9 grams of weed each before dying.” How much is too much? Here are a few median lethal doses to consider: Cocaine: 1.2 grams Oxycodone: 80 mg (in a single dose) Heroin: 75-375 mg (depending on potency) Sugar: 1,100 mg/kg Marijuana: 1,260 mg/kg (pure THC)
again, I tend to agree with all of this.
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