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re: Study shows Pot is starting to effect healthcare and educational costs

Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:42 pm to
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And people want liberty on relationships with kids. Should we accept that too? I mean the LBGQT hero Harry Hay was a huge advocate for it.



One of those is a victimless crime and the other isn't. But yeah, argue that.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56700 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:43 pm to
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And people want liberty on relationships with kids. Should we accept that too?


Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55732 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:43 pm to
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2 issues in the first part of this report. 1- They think it's safe. Why? Because it's been promoted that way. 2- research (at the time of the article) was already showing it does.


Might as well save your breath on this pot crapola, it is what it is. I know as do many other people who use to smoke weed it is not a net positive for most people, this is not to say medicinal uses are not valid but most of the medicinal uses can be realized without the THC component.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:45 pm to
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Addiction is based upon a psychological dysfunction in the brain. It is NOT based upon any single particular substances or past time (gambling, porn, etc.). The traits just need a trigger whether its alcohol, coke, brown, naked people or MJ.


Is it. Can those be changed in the womb? etc..

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Quoting an abuse website with an obvious self-sustaining agenda is fricking comical as well.


Every quote I linked and has the study within the link, states the study.

So we are back to you simply refusing the study because of your desire for pot. Are you an addict?

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BUT, again, what responsible expectant mother smokes weed or consumes edibles with THC? Answer: NONE!!!!!


I linked many websites promoting it within the pot industry. I link and posted the graph showing the huge increase in expecting mothers using it.

There is a reason for that. It goes back to the promotion of mj being harmless.

Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:46 pm to
Cheers mate I'm bowing out, you seem to be trolling to be honest.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:47 pm to
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t's going to be legalized eventually,I am sure. We need to go about it wisely though. Like legal to grow at home for personal use first.Can only buy seeds from a licensed dealer. No dealing of the actual product.? I don't know.


And no sponging off the system when they crash and burn.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:49 pm to
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Provided many.


Yet you still refuse to provide a link backing your ridiculous claim that hundreds die from marijuana overdoses each year.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:49 pm to
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Gonna comment on the actual topic? For prohibition?


This topic is about prohibition.

Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:49 pm to
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It goes back to the promotion of mj being harmless.


....by sources on the other side that are misguided/reckless.

You arbitrarily use those to cherry pick a smoking gun supporting why MJ should be illegal.

You don't cite mainstream and widely accepted literature. No. You find quackery to support your quackery.

We all see you. We know what you represent and most people don't align with you and your Busch League tactics.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:52 pm to
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Or maybe doesn't want his tax dollars being wasted on combating it..


Different topic.


Start one on it. I will show up.

This is about the promotion of MJ as safe to the extent that we have (documented in this thread) news outlets, pro- weed blogs etc selling it as a cure for morning sickness and not harmful to the fetus. I have provided a graph show the increase in expecting mothers using. I have linked to Drs and research saying it's due to them feeling it's safe.

Stay on topic.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23249 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:53 pm to
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Have you figured it out yet?


:sigh: Ok, professor. Please show me my math error so we can move on (seriously). I will dutifully accept my re-education. Get your "win", then get back on topic, please.

This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 2:54 pm
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:54 pm to
per drug.addictionblog.org

Although impossible to have a toxic overdose of marijuana, it is quite possible to consume more weed than necessary. When you smoke too much marijuana or eat too much pot-based food, you can manifest symptoms of ataxia/dizziness, sweating, nausea, vomiting, possible crying, and sometimes a sensation of dying. But don’t be concerned; ingesting too much marijuana is not fatal or injurious to any organs.

....and this is widely accepted by the medical community.

guess what happens if a go slam a 5th of whisky right now? I could die.

guy's a quack.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31578 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:55 pm to
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I think the fact that you have to be 21 to purchase marijuana legally (where it's legal for recreational use) is indicative of the extra responsibility necessary for it's purchase, just like you have to be 21 to purchase alcohol.


You know, I have never paid attention to how it is sold,or marketed in legal states. I am just passing through.
How much do they educate via TV and such?
We all see the anti tobacco ads,to this day,with people talking through a tube,people who have face& mouth cancer,etc..and kids are still smoking cigarettes. There are disclaimers on every booze commercial,but there are still underage drinkers. It's going to happen. You still have to try to discourage it,as much as you can.
You can't just say all the great things about it,that is not reasonable.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:56 pm to
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I support staying on topic and not getting into straw man arguments.


Straw man? Dude. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

You are simply avoiding the prohibition angle because you know it's an exact corollary and fricks your entire argument.

Either you support making things illegal for the silly shite you've included in this thread or you don't.

You can't play both sides and pretend to have any intellectual honesty on the subject.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:57 pm to
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Pregnant women and girls are supposed to refrain from all of that stuff while pregnant.


How dare you tell a woman what she can or can not do with her body.

Her body if she wants to smoke dope then she can.

Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:57 pm to
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You can't just say all the great things about it,that is not reasonable


just came back from CO.

the state has a ton of info pamphlets everywhere regarding laws and the responsibilities of using it. The tone is much like smoking/alcohol, but its actually more prevalent.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 2:58 pm to
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I linked many websites promoting it within the pot industry. I link and posted the graph showing the huge increase in expecting mothers using it.


Which subject are you trying to discuss here?

That those selling pot should be more careful with their claims? Or, that pot should be illegal?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:00 pm to
From the DEA website:

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Overdose effects No death from overdose of marijuana has been reported.



LINK

I posted this the other day and he tried to imply that as an organization the DEA is not anti-marijuana.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73454 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:00 pm to
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You know, I have never paid attention to how it is sold,or marketed in legal states. I am just passing through.
How much do they educate via TV and such?

I have no idea. I live in the Bible Belt, and we will assuredly be the last to legalize it
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We all see the anti tobacco ads,to this day,with people talking through a tube,people who have face& mouth cancer,etc..and kids are still smoking cigarettes. There are disclaimers on every booze commercial,but there are still underage drinkers. It's going to happen. You still have to try to discourage it,as much as you can.

and I'm sure you will see the same eventually with marijuana. It's in its infancy right now and only a handful of states allow it for recreational use. Once it's nationwide, I have no doubts you'll see similar commercials and disclaimers. I've never been a dispensary so I have no idea if they have disclaimers provided upon purchase or not.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 3:00 pm to
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Our system has never been nor shall it ever be one without limitations and restrictions 


Has has anyone argued for marijuana legalization without limitations or restrictions?

You continue to invent arguments and then project them onto people and then argue against those projected arguments instead of the points people make.

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Straw man and nothing to do with MJ 



I was literally replying to a post you made about Big Pharma as comparison to Marijuana. You're pretty dense, dude.

This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 3:01 pm
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