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Strange numbers
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:05 pm
Here’s how much money presidents have raised for their libraries.
Biden: ONLY $4m (goal was $200m to $300m)
Obama: $1.5B to $1.6B
George W. Bush: $500m +
Clinton: $165m
George H.W. Bush: $43m
Reagan: $57-$60m
Carter: $26m (In 1981)
How does the most popular president of all with 81m+ votes in 2024 only get $4m from his supporter to build his library?
Biden: ONLY $4m (goal was $200m to $300m)
Obama: $1.5B to $1.6B
George W. Bush: $500m +
Clinton: $165m
George H.W. Bush: $43m
Reagan: $57-$60m
Carter: $26m (In 1981)
How does the most popular president of all with 81m+ votes in 2024 only get $4m from his supporter to build his library?
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:07 pm to anc
Trump raised 900m after his first term.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:08 pm to anc
81 million votes, though. The most in history yet can only raise $4 million
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:09 pm to anc
I can't imagine a bigger oxymoron than "Biden library".
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:20 pm to anc
So... Obama raised a billion and a half dollars... and came up with this:?
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:27 pm to anc
Just do away with this tradition.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:29 pm to anc
quote:
How does the most popular president of all with 81m+ votes in 2024 only get $4m from his supporter to build his library?
That is a mystery, isn't it?
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:35 pm to W2NOMO
quote:
Just do away with this tradition.
This. We have more important things to do.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:43 pm to anc
Using library fundraising as proof of electoral legitimacy is like judging a football team by gift shop revenue.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:47 pm to anc
quote:
How does the most popular president of all with 81m+ votes in 2024 only get $4m from his supporter to build his library?
Additionally, what in the frick in that Soviet style monstrosity of the Obama library is worth 1.5 billion? They need to audit that shite.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:49 pm to TerryDawg03
Nah. I think Presidential Libraries are important to preserve history. I remember visiting the Truman library in Missouri as a kid. It was interesting.
Problem is, some of these libraries are nothing more than money laundering schemes...Obama.
Problem is, some of these libraries are nothing more than money laundering schemes...Obama.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:50 pm to anc
Most of those 81 million were dead in '20.
Dead voters can't donate money 6 years later
Dead voters can't donate money 6 years later
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:54 pm to CrystalPreserves
quote:Depends what you are trying to judge about the football team. Are you judging how effective their O-line is? Then gift shop revenue is useless.
Using library fundraising as proof of electoral legitimacy is like judging a football team by gift shop revenue.
If you are judging how popular a team is, then gift shop revenue is likely highly correlated to popularity just as money raised for a vanity project such as a library is also likely highly correlated to popularity (ability to draw votes) of a President.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:54 pm to Onyx Aggie
That one isn't very smart.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 8:57 pm to anc
What is worse is that he didn’t even raise $4 million for his library. Every dollar of that $4 million is leftover from his 2021 inauguration.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 9:03 pm to anc
How much of what the Kenyan raised has just been outright stolen?
Posted on 5/31/26 at 9:04 pm to AlterEd
Yeah, I've noticed.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 9:06 pm to anc
Another strange number? 87,000!! That’s how many IRS agents were hired by Biden and none of them found the fraud in Minnesota?
Posted on 5/31/26 at 9:06 pm to anc
Most likely you can answer your own question.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 9:14 pm to Onyx Aggie
quote:
Depends what you are trying to judge about the football team. Are you judging how effective their O-line is? Then gift shop revenue is useless. If you are judging how popular a team is, then gift shop revenue is likely highly correlated to popularity just as money raised for a vanity project such as a library is also likely highly correlated to popularity (ability to draw votes) of a President.
Correlated? Sure. Equivalent? Not even close. Presidential libraries are funded by wealthy donors, foundations, and institutional networks. Votes come from millions of ordinary people who never write six-figure checks.
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