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Strait of Hormuz
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:23 pm
How does a country with no Navy shut down the strait? How does the US keep it open?
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:29 pm to geauxbrown
“I say we blow the frickers up!”—Dudley “Booger” Dawson
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:31 pm to geauxbrown
I have no idea. I’m trying to visualize it, but I can’t.
Yet somehow, every time Israel sneezes, Iran cries and shuts the entire thing down.
Yet somehow, every time Israel sneezes, Iran cries and shuts the entire thing down.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:33 pm to geauxbrown
It's the threat of a tanker getting blown up. No tanker will take the risk. You don't need a navy, you just need to make threats about firing missiles or planting mines, etc. The U.S. Navy cannot guarantee the safety of every ship.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:36 pm to geauxbrown
Are you going to even attempt to use your imagination on it, even for just 30 seconds to a minute? A minute of your life, that’s all I’m asking. They are capable of doing it. There’s no debating that. So obviously and clearly there must be a way they do it. Now your imagination. Boom. Go.
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:38 pm to geauxbrown
They havent shut down shite
This is a myth like the cuck of kiev taking out 30 russian pilots with one missile shot
This is a myth like the cuck of kiev taking out 30 russian pilots with one missile shot
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:40 pm to geauxbrown
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:51 pm to geauxbrown
drones and mine.
it's not so much that Iran is actually keeping them from crossing as much as it makes the insurance companies blink.
it's not so much that Iran is actually keeping them from crossing as much as it makes the insurance companies blink.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 12:28 am to geauxbrown
Mandatory reading for the class. Using this thread as it's currently the shortest and didn't want to create new topic.
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Under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), straits used for international navigation are governed by the regime of transit passage, which balances the sovereignty of bordering states with the need for unimpeded global maritime and aerial flow.
Key Rules for Transit Passage
Right of Passage: All ships and aircraft, including warships and submarines (which may transit submerged), enjoy the right of continuous and expeditious transit through the entire strait and its approaches.
No Suspension: Bordering states cannot suspend transit passage for any reason, including security concerns, nor can they impose requirements that effectively hamper or impair this right.
Prohibited Activities: Vessels and aircraft must refrain from any threat or use of force against the bordering states, conduct weapons exercises, or engage in intelligence gathering. Activities unrelated to transit, such as loitering or scientific research without authorization, are prohibited.
Compliance Obligations: Users must comply with generally accepted international regulations regarding maritime safety, collision avoidance, and the prevention of marine pollution.
Coastal State Authority: Bordering states may designate sea lanes and prescribe traffic separation schemes for safety, enforce laws against pollution discharge, and regulate fishing and customs, provided these measures do not nullify the right of transit.
Exceptions and Alternative Regimes
Innocent Passage: If a strait contains a route through the high seas or exclusive economic zone that is equally convenient, ships may use that route under the ordinary freedom of navigation rather than transit passage.
Existing Conventions: The transit passage regime does not apply to straits regulated by long-standing international conventions, such as the Turkish Straits (governed by the 1936 Montreux Convention) or the Danish Straits.
Geographic Exceptions: If a strait is formed by an island belonging to a coastal state and its mainland, and there is a seaward route of similar convenience, the transit passage regime may not apply to that specific route.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 12:42 am to Victor R Franko
But in reality, in real life, what type of enforcement is involved in that area of “law?” Because running afoul of the law where the penalties can be steep and they will be forced on you, if it came to it is one thing. This seems like more of a set of guidelines, cloaked in the “official” shroud of International Law. Again, I’d like the minutes of today’s proceedings to reflect that this is just my opinion.
**Oh, so I guess my overall point was that the law you cited doesn’t appear to have any teeth, as far as enforcement of serious violations is concerned. Or of any type violations.
**Oh, so I guess my overall point was that the law you cited doesn’t appear to have any teeth, as far as enforcement of serious violations is concerned. Or of any type violations.
This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 12:44 am
Posted on 6/22/26 at 6:10 am to geauxbrown
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How does a country with no Navy shut down the strait? How does the US keep it open?
It’s a geographical advantage that’s hard to overcome. It’s just not the SoH, but the locations of the GCC being close to Iran.
This war is such bad move on the chess board. Once Iran closed the SoH they realized they had a great cheat code. They had an idea but not to the extent that it is.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 6:12 am to geauxbrown
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Trump knows exactly what he’s doing. He understands these animals better than anyone. He’s weakening the regime from within, without firing a single shot. Just as he predicted, as soon as the corrupt ones smelled real money, they sold out the entire regime and its ideology without hesitation.
Let the man cook, trust the process."
Posted on 6/22/26 at 6:28 am to PeteRose
That’s an understatement. Providing Iran with this new knowledge that they can wield the S of H lever whenever want is a disaster.
So we are just trying to negotiate back to pre-war status where the S of H was open and free passage was granted.
We now still have no idea what will happen with the S of H moving forwards.
Because even if they MOU is intact,
that is only a 60 day window, and then the Iranian regime maintains control of the S of H.
The US gaining or maintaining control of the S of H would be like operations in Afghanistan.
So we are just trying to negotiate back to pre-war status where the S of H was open and free passage was granted.
We now still have no idea what will happen with the S of H moving forwards.
Because even if they MOU is intact,
that is only a 60 day window, and then the Iranian regime maintains control of the S of H.
The US gaining or maintaining control of the S of H would be like operations in Afghanistan.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 6:29 am to geauxbrown
Drones and they have rpg's and other military equipment from China and Russia all over the strate to fire at tankers.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 6:39 am to SDVTiger
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They havent shut down shite
And yet, somehow traffic through the strait remains a fraction of 2025 levels.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 7:11 am to geauxbrown
They have fortified mountains overlooking the channel from where missle or maybe old school naval guns can reach.
They don’t need much in the way of a Navy or Air Force at all.
They don’t need much in the way of a Navy or Air Force at all.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 7:24 am to geauxbrown
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How does a country with no Navy shut down the strait?
Scare tactics, say a lie out loud over and over and some people will believe it. Yet ships are passing thru the straits every day.
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