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re: Staggering graph shows how eight million Democrat voters ‘vanished’
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:06 pm to Stagg8
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:06 pm to Stagg8
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What is the likelihood that a voter conspiracy spanning many cities, counties, and states… needing hundreds if not thousands of culprits… took place and no one credible has spoken out?
You’re making a number of assumptions.
Not the least of which is that fraud is not a regular part of the system in Fulton, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Wayne counties.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:08 pm to the808bass
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You’re making a number of assumptions.
Let’s be clear, I’m the one making the least “assumptions.”
I’m also the one in the unenviable, impossible position of proving that something doesn’t exist (which is impossible).
The onus is on the group making the claim to provide compelling evidence (in this case of voter fraud). There are at least a few theories in this thread that aren’t totally laughable, but I wouldn’t say any are compelling.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:11 pm to WestSideTiger
Stevie Wonder can see what happened in 2020
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:12 pm to Penrod
So why the lack of enthusiasm this time vs 2020 when they were all voting against trump?
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:17 pm to WestSideTiger
And all the people in power who weren’t elected.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:18 pm to Stagg8
And Kamala was supposedly leading in Nevada, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Let’s not forget that Iowa Seltzer poll too.
The only folks who disliked Trump were Democrats and men whose wives have boyfriends.
The only folks who disliked Trump were Democrats and men whose wives have boyfriends.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:21 pm to riccoar
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The only folks who disliked Trump
Lots of people dislike Trump. He dodged the draft (I don’t blame him). He grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth. He has kids with three wives (I don’t care). He ballooned the deficit more than any president in history, by a lot. He failed on some of his biggest promises. He sat by for hours while the Capitol was occupied doing nothing. He pressured state officials to throw an election. He openly pondered the execution of some of his military cabinet.
I hope my wife doesn’t have a boyfriend.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:23 pm to WestSideTiger
They all died with covid
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:28 pm to Penrod
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Right wingers who think that Dems manufactured 8 million votes (same folks who were claiming 20 million a week ago) just sound like idiots.
Maybe not manufactured 8M votes but how many were cast by illegal aliens in states that do not require a photo ID?
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:56 pm to boomtown143
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one simple answer is that in 2024, Republicans had a lot of new people register to vote
Charlie Kirk and Scott Pressler did some incredible work registering new Republican voters.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 3:07 pm to WestSideTiger
Most populous states (as of 11/17):
CA
Biden 11,110,639
Harris 8,879,703
down 20.1% (2.23 million)
TX
Biden 5,259,126
Harris 4,816,730
down 8.4% (0.44 million)
FL
Biden 5,297,045
Harris 4,680,896
down 11.6% (0.62 million)
NY
Biden 5,244,886
Harris 4,385,987
down 16.4% (0.86 million)
IL
Biden 3,471,915
Harris 3,007,754
down 13.4% (0.46 million)
PA
Biden 3,458,229
Harris 3,417,581
down 1.2%
OH
Biden 2,679,165
Harris 2,476,180
down 7.6% (0.20 million)
GA
Biden 2,473,633
Harris 2,548,014
up 3.0%
NC
Biden 2,684,292
Harris 2,714,403
up 1.1%
MI
Biden 2,804,040
Harris 2,733,365
down 2.5%
~4,810,000 fewer votes for Harris than for Biden in the 6 states bolded. Net of ~2,602,000 fewer votes in the remaining states.
Total difference of ~7,412,000.
CA
Biden 11,110,639
Harris 8,879,703
down 20.1% (2.23 million)
TX
Biden 5,259,126
Harris 4,816,730
down 8.4% (0.44 million)
FL
Biden 5,297,045
Harris 4,680,896
down 11.6% (0.62 million)
NY
Biden 5,244,886
Harris 4,385,987
down 16.4% (0.86 million)
IL
Biden 3,471,915
Harris 3,007,754
down 13.4% (0.46 million)
PA
Biden 3,458,229
Harris 3,417,581
down 1.2%
OH
Biden 2,679,165
Harris 2,476,180
down 7.6% (0.20 million)
GA
Biden 2,473,633
Harris 2,548,014
up 3.0%
NC
Biden 2,684,292
Harris 2,714,403
up 1.1%
MI
Biden 2,804,040
Harris 2,733,365
down 2.5%
~4,810,000 fewer votes for Harris than for Biden in the 6 states bolded. Net of ~2,602,000 fewer votes in the remaining states.
Total difference of ~7,412,000.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 11/17/24 at 3:23 pm to Stagg8
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Like most conspiracy theories, this stuff breaks down when game theory is considered. What is the likelihood that a voter conspiracy spanning many cities, counties, and states… needing hundreds if not thousands of culprits… took place and no one credible has spoken out?
And you are ignoring the fact that Dems openly admit they are ignoring court orders in their current attempt to steal a Senate seat in Pennsylvania.
Indeed, lost in the headlines after the January 6th melee was the last minute petition by legislative leaders of the majority parties in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Arizona for Pence and Congress to delay certification:
More than 100 state legislators ask Pence to delay certification of electoral votes by 10 days…
quote:
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Wisconsin State Rep. Joe Sanfelippo signed the large group letter because there are at least three mass illegalities that occurred during the Wisconsin election that have been confirmed since Nov. 3, all instances in which state officials made election changes that were not approved by the Legislature.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court has already ruled state officials wrongly authorized voters to declare themselves "indefinitely confined" to home by COVID-19 and thus able to skip voter ID laws. About 200,000 voters are believed to have taken advantage of the change in a state where Biden leads Trump by just 20,000 votes.
Another 200,000 voters were not cleared from voter rolls as required by the law and done in prior elections, and state officials also gave permission for some counties in large, urban Democratic areas permission to alter and cure inaccurate ballots without going back to voters.
"We know laws were broken. That's indisputable," Sanfelippo said in an interview. "What we don't know is whether the breaking of those laws affected the outcome of the election." Sanfelippo said the delay he and other lawmakers have asked for will give the legislators a week to investigate and make formal decisions.
"The U.S. Constitution gives us authority to determine how elections are run," he added. "All of that assumes the law is going to be followed by those who implement it. And now that we know the law wasn't followed in this election, so as state legislators is it up to us to determine did that have any effect on the outcome, to hold those people who didn't follow the law accountable and to make sure in the future those laws are followed."
Couple this with the fact that the executive branch in many of these swing states repeatedly ignored court orders, sandbagged legislative subpoenas, destroyed evidence and otherwise blatantly ignored election laws and the claims of an illegitimate election has not only NOT been disproven, it has scarcely been adjudicated.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 3:26 pm to Stagg8
Well you can add precincts in Wisconsin who had more votes than voters. There were more than a couple.
In addition, the entire state had over 90% of registered voters cast a vote. A laughable number. Australia, where it is illegal to not vote, doesn’t hit 90% voter participation. Add in the fact that Wisconsin doesn’t regularly purge its rolls, and you have simply laughable gross numbers on their face.
In addition, the entire state had over 90% of registered voters cast a vote. A laughable number. Australia, where it is illegal to not vote, doesn’t hit 90% voter participation. Add in the fact that Wisconsin doesn’t regularly purge its rolls, and you have simply laughable gross numbers on their face.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:59 am to Cuz413
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But where were they to vote for Harris?
Some were not as motivated as they were in the frenetic 2020 election, when covid had paralyzed the world, BLM was on the march, and Trump was the Emmanuel Goldstein who had to be overthrown.
Then some switched their votes. Anyway, as the count reaches the same stage of completion as the 2020 vote, we will be discussing 2 or 3 million “missing” votes. The hysteria about 20 million…10 million…err, 5 million, ummm 2 million missing votes will become moot.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 10:00 am
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