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re: St. George Opposition Committing to Lawsuits

Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by DukeDevil
Raleigh
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:20 pm to
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Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:32 pm to
Here’s a link to Cormier’s petition:

LINK

Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29978 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:40 pm to
Haven't read through the entire thread to check for any discussion of this, but how will St. George's atty fees and costs be funded at this early stage?
Posted by MrXYZ
Member since Jun 2018
851 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:53 pm to
Why now? Because they just voted to incorporate
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:53 pm to
If this is allowed in the courts then all over the state watch people ask to leave the city they are in due to typically higher taxes in the cities versus unincorporated areas.

Then if a development or business was on the LA & TX state line or near it could they annex into Texas for tax reasons.

This could open a big can of worms.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:55 pm to
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St. George Opposition Committing to Lawsuits


BR litigation machine:

This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 7:58 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35963 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:58 pm to
Did you get a map of the defined area?
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7313 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:08 pm to
The supporters of St. George would be smart to spread the story of their struggle to every corner of the state. Giving it a high profile statewide may come in handy later.
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6404 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:11 pm to
[link=(Did you get a map of the defined area?)]LINK[/link]

Nope, I was just curious what their petition looked like. I don’t see how this petition drive is even legal.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15362 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:12 pm to
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The supporters of St. George would be smart to spread the story of their struggle to every corner of the state. Giving it a high profile statewide may come in handy later.


We need to attach JBE to this.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35963 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:29 pm to
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[link=(Did you get a map of the defined area?)]LINK[/link]

Nope, I was just curious what their petition looked like. I don’t see how this petition drive is even legal.


Who knows what’s legal anymore?
We just went through the prescribed process and people are coming from everywhere to reverse the outcome.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4498 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:32 pm to
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As of mid-morning, volunteers with One Baton Rouge, which has opposed the St. George incorporation effort, had prepared annexation petitions for six neighborhoods that voted against the measure in Saturday’s election, according to M.E. Cormier, lead organizer of One Baton Rouge.


They have to get 50% of the registered voters in the area to sign the petition, not 50% of the people that voted. Even if they get all of the no votes to sign the petition in these neighborhoods that voted against, it still wouldn't be enough because turnout was just under 60%. Then they have to have enough extra signatures for those that are rejected (which Ms. Cormier should know all about). They then have to hope they have the votes on the Metro Council to accept it. And all of that has to be done in a month.

If people didn't care enough to get out and vote, especially in a gubernatorial election, are they going to care enough to sign this petition? I have my doubts.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 8:34 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422114 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:34 pm to
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“Two thousand people should not be able to decide the fate of everyone in Baton Rouge,” Engquist says.


Can we take anyone opposing StG seriously in the future if they promote "democracy"
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:37 pm to
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They have to get 50% of the registered voters in the area to sign the petition
Nope. For annexation it’s 50% of the property owners and 50% of voters.

And the combined property value of those 50% property owners must be greater than 25% of the total property values in that area.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 9:49 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422114 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:42 pm to
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I would be mad as hell if my neighborhood is one of the ones supposedly trying to get into BR now

the irony is that these people are the ones who incorrectly claimed StG was "breaking away"

now they're actually trying to break away from StG
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35963 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:43 pm to
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Nope. For annexation it’s 50% of the property owners not voters.

And the combined property value of those 50% property owners must be greater than 25% of the total property values in that area.



Yes, and it is interesting in that you can be a registered voter and not have a voice or you could have a voice and not be a registered voter.

But if I had to guess most properties in the area being discussed will have one or more registered voters domiciled in the dwelling.

This process is entirely different than the incorporation process when you think about it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422114 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:45 pm to
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Here’s a link to Cormier’s petition:

i don't think EBR can annex white areas into the city b/c it will dilute black representation. it will be hilarious if EBR has to defend legitimately racist policies in order to combat the alleged racist St George
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4498 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:55 pm to
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For annexation it’s 50% of the property owners not voters.

I was basing what I said off of this:
quote:

State law requires 50% of residents plus one in an area that is seeking annexation must sign a petition in order for the request to be considered by the Metro Council.

Was assuming this meant voters. So would the owner of business property be able to sign as well? Interesting. I still think they've got a tall hill to climb - a lot of people are exhausted of this whole process and ready for it to come to an end.
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
1919 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:58 pm to
Engquist develops in Zachary, central, and Ascension parishes. He doesnt want the threat of another good school district hurting his honey holes. frick him.

I dont live in BR or St. George but I'm down to boycott every business owner that has called this movement something that it's not, spread fear, and refuses to accept the will of the people.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:10 pm to
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Yes, and it is interesting in that you can be a registered voter and not have a voice or you could have a voice and not be a registered voter.
It’s not difficult to understand nor is it particularly “interesting.’

It’s property that’s being annexed not people.

A hundred voters might rent in an apartment complex but they come and go. The property stays there.

So, it’s the property owner who requests his property to be annexed, or not annexed, not the renters who might also be voters. Or, not voters.
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