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Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:35 pm to LSURussian
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Why would they know they were going to be included in the second petition after the SG organizers had announced they were going to shrink the SG footprint for the second petition drive more than a YEAR before the second drive's area was revealed
They had options if the wanted in BR. When the first petition was circulated they could have petitioned for annexation Into BR then.
Or they could have spoken with SG organizers and tried to ascertain their intentions.
But maybe they wanted in BR all along and just realized it.
But like I said, they have the right to petition and follow the process.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:35 pm to Rock the Casbah
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Big Rispone donor.
And so it begins.....
So what begins?
He’s clearly supporting candidates/issues that best benefit his business ventures.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:36 pm to The Rodfather
I would be mad as hell if my neighborhood is one of the ones supposedly trying to get into BR now
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:36 pm to LSURussian
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Is that an option for them now? I'd really like to know the answer to that question.
Obviously it is an option. You even stated the process for de-annexing is the same for annexing. That for them to become part of BR they would have to petition to be unincorporated from SG and get it passed. Then they would have to petition to be incorporated into BR and get it passed.
1) get removed from SG
2) be unincorporated
3) get annexed into BR
So there would be a time that they would be right back in the middle. They could just stay there. However these people are asking to be released from SG and added to BR.
So I ask again. If they want to be part of BR, why did they not do this when they had the opportunity during the 2 year waiting window for SG to re-petition for incorporation?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:36 pm to doubleb
Three towns/cities have incorporated in the last 25 years (where the whole parish didn't get to vote on the issue): St. Gabriel, Creola, and Central. There were no court challenges to them, so why do the opponents of St. George think this is going to go their way? "Muh gerrymandering?" 
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:38 pm to LSUengr
Libs just do not know how to lose with dignity.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:40 pm to The Rodfather
So explain the budgeting that shows $54m being taxed in the SG area and the $33m that is paid back to the area, and the report showing a $21m surplus based on this?
I am genuinely asking you. I even said before that you seemed pretty knowledgeable on this whole ordeal. And please don't just talk in metaphors / generalities.
I am genuinely asking you. I even said before that you seemed pretty knowledgeable on this whole ordeal. And please don't just talk in metaphors / generalities.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:45 pm to LSUengr
quote:And that's why it didn't pass. There is no way to defend something that crooked.
State Sen. Yvonne Dorsey-Colomb, however, proposed a carefully worded bill in the Legislature earlier this year that would apply only to East Baton Rouge Parish and, if enacted, would have required parishwide approval on St. George incorporation.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:46 pm to PiscesTiger
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Libs just do not know how to lose with dignity.
The sad thing is it's not the Libs who are up in arms about this. I seriously doubt you could consider John Enquist a liberal. He's very, very, wealthy, though (Head & Enquist Equipment Company). I would figure St. George would be a good business opportunity for Level Homes, his construction company.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:27 pm to LSUengr
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Two thousand people should not be able to decide the fate of everyone in Baton Rouge
Someone needs to tell Mr. Engquist how votes work. What exactly is the threshold for deciding the fate of BR. And why is the fate of BR tied to an unincorporated area? If anyone doubted the opposition was about money, here you go.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:33 pm to LSUengr
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Legal challenges are expected to focus, among other things, on the fact that the entire parish was not allowed to vote on the incorporation issue. Existing state law calls only for voters within the proposed city boundaries to vote on incorporation. State Sen. Yvonne Dorsey-Colomb, however, proposed a carefully worded bill in the Legislature earlier this year that would apply only to East Baton Rouge Parish and, if enacted, would have required parishwide approval on St. George incorporation.
This paragraph is just full of dumb.
The law was followed but we should sue because we don’t like the law and when we tried to change it, it failed.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:33 pm to LSUengr
I think they would have more success if they dropped the whole "everyone affected should be able to vote" angle because that's one hell of a slippery slope.
Instead, they could easily tie things up in court for years simply by filing a suit on behalf of those who were left out of the new SG city limits and claim that the boundaries weren't drawn up within the spirit of the law.
Instead, they could easily tie things up in court for years simply by filing a suit on behalf of those who were left out of the new SG city limits and claim that the boundaries weren't drawn up within the spirit of the law.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:36 pm to dakarx
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Wanting to use the courts to undo election results they don't like.....where have we heard that song before?
Liberals: “The Republicans are a threat to democracy”
Liberals when they don’t get what they want: “frick democracy”
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:36 pm to LSUengr
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State Sen. Yvonne Dorsey-Colomb, however, proposed a carefully worded bill in the Legislature earlier this year that would apply only to East Baton Rouge Parish and, if enacted, would have required parishwide approval on St. George incorporation.
Pro tip, anytime someone calls a law "carefully worded" you know some bullshite is being pulled.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:37 pm to The Rodfather
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I'm surprised they went straight for the lawsuit phase of their "we lost" plan.
I’m not.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:52 pm to Godfather1
So far we’ve heard these objections; the whole parish didn’t get to vote, they shrunk the boundaries and excluded areas that didn’t want in, and they set the boundaries and some were included that didn’t want in SG.
Then we learn that old, well established neighborhoods really wanted to be in BR all along and now there’s a rush to get them inside the city limits.
And to top it off winning by only 2500 votes isn’t good enough. You have to win by more. Maybe tomorrow they’ll let us know how many you really need to win.
Then we learn that old, well established neighborhoods really wanted to be in BR all along and now there’s a rush to get them inside the city limits.
And to top it off winning by only 2500 votes isn’t good enough. You have to win by more. Maybe tomorrow they’ll let us know how many you really need to win.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:02 pm to doubleb
So, worst case scenario. What happens if the court takes side with EBR and rule against the incorporation and throws it out?
Besides, probably another mass exodus of the middle class. What else?
Besides, probably another mass exodus of the middle class. What else?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:08 pm to Modern
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another mass exodus of the middle class.
In which case, Baton Rouge still withers and dies. It just takes a little longer.
I suppose StG opponents can play dirty and stop incorporation. What they can’t do is stop people from leaving the parish.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:09 pm to LSUengr
Everybody with their hand in the cookie jar is gonna jump in......why do they think they will suffer....businesses won't close or relocate....its gotta be the tax revenue......hmmmmmm
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