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re: St. George Opposition Committing to Lawsuits

Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:59 am to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:59 am to
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people making those assumptions are doing so based on the news that annex petitions are being prepared and circulated.

Because that's their only option at this point.

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Petitions to annex into BR. Not petitions to simply deannex from St G.
St. George doesn't exist yet so they can't de-annex from it yet.

To de-annex from a city a petition has to be presented to the governing body of that city for approval. There is NO GOVERNING BODY of St. George yet. And it may be months before one exists. No one knows at this point.

This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 10:02 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35963 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:59 am to
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In response to you and several others repeatedly saying "Why didn't those areas try to be annexed into BR when they had the chance?", I said their majority "No" votes on election doesn't necessarily mean they want to be in Baton Rouge.


My question about why didn’t they try to get annexed Into BR years ago was brought about by news that the Cormier woman and her gang were starting to circulate a BR annexation petition. I asked only for that reason.
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All we know from their majority votes is they don't want to be in the city of St. George.


Actually all we know is that on Election Day several of those precincts had more no votes than yes votes. But could early voting added to those numbers have changed things? Perhaps, some were very close; however, I don’t know if anyone knows that answer.
But for now evidence at hand said more vote no than yes.

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Anyone assuming they've wanted to be in BR all along is just making an uninformed assumption at this point.


I agree 100%.
I don’t speak for them and I don’t think Cormier does either. I do support their right go choose. I’m sure you do too, and like me you’d accept the outcome.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37042 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:02 am to
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St. George doesn't exist yet so they can't de-annex from it yet.


Understood... but if their goal is to be unincorp... just wait until it does and de-annex then.

In other words... at this immediate moment, it doesn't seem like there is an option for an area to say no to both city of BR and city of St G... but that option will open up at some point.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:13 am to
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“Two thousand people should not be able to decide the fate of everyone in Baton Rouge,” Engquist says. “This fight is just starting.”
It was actually 2,554
32,000 people voted. If others in the proposed city boundaries wanted a "say," they should have voted as well.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:17 am to
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“Two thousand people should not be able to decide the fate of everyone in Baton Rouge,”


That line pisses me off.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:17 am to
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but if their goal is to be unincorp... just wait until it does and de-annex then.
This is the last time I'm going to reply to you in this thread unless you bring up a new point.

Almost everything you've posted has been discussed earlier in this thread. We're going round and round now.

To de-annex takes a petition drive. To be annexed takes a second, separate petition drive.

So waiting until there is a St. George would require, literally, twice the time and effort, IF, what those residents really want is to be annexed into BR.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98602 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:18 am to
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32,000 people voted. If others in the proposed city boundaries wanted a "say," they should have voted as well.


This.

Plus, as was also noted earlier in the thread, the margin of victory for some of the recent parish-wide tax elections has been smaller (in numbers and/or as a percentage of the total vote)
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35963 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:18 am to
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Understood... but if their goal is to be unincorp... just wait until it does and de-annex then.

In other words... at this immediate moment, it doesn't seem like there is an option for an area to say no to both city of BR and city of St G... but that option will open up at some point.


If their end goal is to unincorporate then there is nothing to do now but wait. They are currently unincorporated.

If their goal now is to get into BR, that’s a legal issue and it may take lawyers and a judge to decide if that’s an option right now.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6755 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:18 am to
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Big Rispone donor.

And so it begins.....


What's your point? Rispone is a HUGE St. George supporter.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35963 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:21 am to
Less than 20,000 voters parish wide renew taxes. 32K vote on SG snd it’s “bad”. Many on the opposition side just don’t get it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35963 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:25 am to
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What's your point? Rispone is a HUGE St. George supporter.



Eddie needs to win and let Thad be interim mayor.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98602 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:29 am to
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This.

Plus, as was also noted earlier in the thread, the margin of victory for some of the recent parish-wide tax elections has been smaller (in numbers and/or as a percentage of the total vote)


According to SecState, voter turnout for the St.G vote was 58.9% (versus an average of about 48% in EBR for the statewide races - some of the local races got into the 50s as a percentage of turnout, but none as high as the turnout percentage for St.G vote).
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35963 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:31 am to
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According to SecState, voter turnout for the St.G vote was 58.9% (versus an average of about 48% in EBR for the statewide races - some of the local races got into the 50s as a percentage of turnout, but none as high as the turnout percentage for St.G vote).


Exactly and there was a governor’s race and a lot of legislative districts up for grabs.

Folks are trying to minimize the vote, but actually it was bigger than the rest of the parish.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42423 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:32 am to
They will definitely have a lawsuit for those inside the boundary that were not allowed to vote on the matter.
It appears their lines drawn could provoke some lawsuits.
If anything the results could be tossed and a revote would have to happen due to discrepancies.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:33 am to
If Rispone loses election, would he be eligible to run as SG mayor? I figured he must own a house or 3 in the area.
Posted by ClarkGriswold
Member since Oct 2005
587 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:35 am to
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This post was edited on 2/13/21 at 8:20 am
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9262 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:36 am to
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“Two thousand people should not be able to decide the fate of everyone in Baton Rouge,”

How do they decide the fate of everyone? Isn't everyone equally self-sufficient? Why can't Baton Rouge function without these 2,000 people?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35963 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:42 am to
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They will definitely have a lawsuit for those inside the boundary that were not allowed to vote on the matter.
It appears their lines drawn could provoke some lawsuits.
If anything the results could be tossed and a revote would have to happen due to discrepancies.


No one in the SG boundary was prevented from voting on SG, where did you hear that they were?

Sure, anyone can sue about the boundaries. In fact they probably will
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98602 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:43 am to
Using SOS stats/results:

In April 2018, 26.4k total votes (11.5% turnout of those who could vote) was apparently enough to renew 10 years of taxes for school facilities in EBR

In November 2017, 25.5k total votes (14% turnout of those who could vote) was apparently enough to impose a 2% hotel tax

In April 2017, 15.5k total votes (5.3% turnout of those who could vote) was apparently enough to renew 10 years of taxes for schools in EBR

and, of course, we all know that 2100 votes was apparently more than sufficient to give the thieves at Council on Aging a shitton of $$$$ in November 2016 - that was w/ turnout of 67.8% the year of a presidential election.

in other words...

frick
dem
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 10:45 am
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2309 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:45 am to
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Engquist develops in Zachary, central, and Ascension parishes.


He also bought Rouzan from Spinosa. Sales have been lagging because of School Redistricting concerns.
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