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re: SPIEGEL: Zelensky has to cut Germany Visit short... Russia quickly advancing in Sumy

Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107246 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:46 pm to
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My only wish is that history remembers Zelenskyyyy accurately and not as some hero.


He will be remembered as another 4-letter word starting with “h” and ending with “o”.

H - - o
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:50 pm to
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I’ve been saying this since the Ukrainian offensive a couple years ago. They shot their bolt then and should have sued for peace then. The terms they could have got then are better than the ones they can get today.


You are correct. That has always been my stance also. Ukraine lost the War when their big Counter Offensive failed in 2023. They put everything into that and the lack of success was the end game for them
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31768 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:52 pm to
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Can you imagine not signing a peace agreement


What peace agreement?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72278 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:02 pm to
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Can you imagine not signing a peace agreement


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What peace agreement?


There is little chance of a peace agreement now. If reports are correct and Russia is in the opening stages of a major summer offensive around Sumy, this could be the beginning of the end of this war. I’m still trying to find information on the scale of this summer offensive. If it’s significant, I don’t see Ukraine being able to stop it given their acute manpower shortage. The window of opportunity for any sort of halfway favorable peace agreement for Ukraine seems to have already closed.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74393 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:06 pm to
An award show?

Spin that
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 7:09 pm to
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What peace agreement?


The one that Russia was offering and gave Steve Witkoff the details.

1. Recognize the 4 oblast that Russia already has 80% or more control of as Russian Territory

2. Recognize Crimea as Russian Territory

3. No NATO for Ukraine

Zelensky refused, said it wasn't possible
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8528 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:08 pm to
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He never seems to be in Ukraine


He travels the world on the backs of US taxpayers. What do you expect him to do?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35600 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:09 pm to
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Zelensky has to cut Germany Visit short.

His country is getting razed by the reds, millions have died, and Zelenskyy has nothing better to do but stay on his worldwide tour-de-grift shopping with Mrs. Z.

There's no pit in hell hot enough for this man.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18168 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:11 pm to
frick. Ukraine is at war. He wants to steer clear of Ukraine. War is for peasants. Not for privileged puppets of the elite..
Posted by RazorbackLaw501
Member since May 2012
965 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:14 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 8:16 pm
Posted by SkiUtah420
Member since Jul 2023
1139 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:25 pm to
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Wow!

Russia might actual reach the suburbs of Kiev by the end of the 22nd century!!


Sumy is actually pretty fricking close to Kiev
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2752 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:28 pm to
I really wish Putin would put this fig out of of his misery.
Posted by ReeseBobby
Comanche TX
Member since Oct 2021
312 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:30 pm to
This offensive will grind to a halt like other Russian attempts in the last three years. Why some of yall worship the Russians is beyond me. Sure they defeated Germany in ww2 but at the loss of 12 million soldiers. They no longer have the manpower to fight like they are.

Russia is in a demographic death spiral with a gdp less than Texas. Low birth rates and low life expectancy.

Russia is the sick man of Europe and they lost all objectives when Finland and Sweden joined NATO
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9703 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:32 pm to
Trumps got his exit card punched today as the district judge ruled he did not have authority to continue negotiation of a cease fire deal between UK and Russia. Trumps response was "see ya bro"
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2752 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:37 pm to
I would love to see Trump round up all the rogue judges in America.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
31460 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:38 pm to
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SirWinston



There he is

You must have gotten the ban hammer for something stupid
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 8:39 pm
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:52 pm to
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Russia is in a demographic death spiral


You must be thinking of Ukraine.


Pre-War (2022): ~41.4 million

Post-War (2025): ~30 million


Population Loss: A decline of ~11 million driven by emigration, displacement, casualties, and occupied territories.

Vs Russia who has actually gained millions of new Citizens


Pre-War (2022): ~146.2 million (including Crimea).

Post-War (2025): ~ 148–150 million With Ukrainian territories that are now Russia and people changed Citizenship.














Posted by ReeseBobby
Comanche TX
Member since Oct 2021
312 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:58 pm to
All that yet Russia still can’t defeat the poorest country in Europe.

My favorite part was when Ukraine with no navy sunk the Russian Black Sea fleet.

Anyway keep sucking that Russian cok but be warned they stopped reporting their hepatitis numbers some years ago because of how bad it is(look it up)
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
1884 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:58 pm to
So all the talk about Russia losing was BS. The European idiots forget that the Russians don’t give a frick how many troops they lose, as long as they keep moving forward.
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
1884 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:00 pm to
It would be hilarious if Putin sends his terms for the cease fire as unconditional surrender.
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