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re: South Carolina trying to keep new LSU president Tate
Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:03 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:03 pm to SammyTiger
So yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:04 pm to SCLibertarian
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We actually have 6 trustees that have been on the BOT for at least a quarter century or more. Another handful have been there for over a decade. There isn't a worse run university in this country than the University of South Carolina. It is the collegiate equivalent of the swamp.
Unlike Louisiana, our governor has no say in the appointment of our trustees. That is solely the realm of the General Assembly. And each judicial circuit in our state is required to have a member from that area. So in theory, Pickens County (where Clemson is) has an equal vote on how to run USC as does Richland County (where Columbia is). If you want to know why Clemson's football program is better than ours, here you go.
SCLibertarian: Hey thanks for the post and joining us. Yes, I did go through your BOT and the guy that stood out to me being there since 1990 is unconscionable, I mean talk about Nepotism and potential conflicts of interest. But yes lots of it seems lifers on the South Carolina BOT.
We here in LA sometimes think are political culture is in terms of ethics and Nepotism the worse in the USA. However, after looking at South Carolina and its Board of Trustees (equivalent to our Board of Supervisors), it isn't even close.
LA the Governor appoints and the LA Senate Confirms, the same way the President appoints Executive branch positions (AG, DOD) Judges, and Senate confirms. LSU BOS serve in 6 year terms and the terms are staggered so no 1 governor, even if wins 2 terms (8 years) can influence the BOS significantly once he or she is done. Eventually, all of the former Governors picks are going to be gone and replaced, etc.
For the record, what can you tell us about Tate when he was Provost at South Carolina. Did his CRT in terms of his educational research impact how he Managed the campus.?
Cheers and welcome
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:06 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
But I also don’t think he would define it as Racism.
I also Don’t think what’s he’s saying in most of his articles is racist nor does it make me think he harbors some hatred towards whites people.
But that’s just based off of what he’s said and written.
I also Don’t think what’s he’s saying in most of his articles is racist nor does it make me think he harbors some hatred towards whites people.
But that’s just based off of what he’s said and written.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:07 pm to SammyTiger
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You LITERALLY do not
I do, and you capitalizing the word literally doesn’t make it any more true or applicable.
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not as you would define it.
Add this to the list of questions you’re afraid to answer. Such a coward.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:09 pm to SammyTiger
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But I also don’t think he would define it as Racism. I also Don’t think what’s he’s saying in most of his articles is racist nor does it make me think he harbors some hatred towards whites people. But that’s just based off of what he’s said and written.
“Yes, Tate subscribes to the racist ideology of critical race theory. But I really don’t think he’s a racist”
Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:12 pm to Open Your Eyes
I believe he subscribes to what he calls Critical Race Theory and as he describes, and applies it it is not inherently racist.
Of course y’all are the same guys who said that it’s racist to claim black students might learn differently.
When the alternative is what? They don’t care about education or are just dumb?
Of course y’all are the same guys who said that it’s racist to claim black students might learn differently.
When the alternative is what? They don’t care about education or are just dumb?
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:21 pm to SammyTiger
So is he going back or staying at LSU?
Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:27 pm to SammyTiger
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He is not afraid to literally write whole articles about what he believes. You just refuse to read them.
He doesn't have to be afraid. CRT is acceptable racism in this climate. You can be a staunch supporter of racism as long as it is normative. It wasn't brave to support slavery in 1850 and it wasn't brave to support Jim Crow in 1940. It isn't brave to support CRT now. In fact, in all three cases it is abhorring racism that requires the courage.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 4:09 pm to SammyTiger
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believe he subscribes to what he calls Critical Race Theory and as he describes, and applies it it is not inherently racist.
So your argument is that extensively and throughout his research, he happens to use a very specific set of words that makeup a phrase that, coincidentally, happens to also be the exact name of a racist ideology that has been around since at least the 1970’s and has a belief system that aligns exactly with what his research is about. But he doesn’t actually subscribe to the ideology, just the 3 words that makeup the ideology’s name.
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Of course y’all are the same guys who said that it’s racist to claim black students might learn differently.
That’s right. If your defense of Tate and critical race theory throughout the last week you also made it clear you think black people in Los Angeles and black people in Miami learn the same because they’re black thing. You still don’t understand why that’s racist, do you sammy.
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When the alternative is what? They don’t care about education or are just dumb?
The alternative is there in nothing racist in how math is taught or about gifted programs. And there are many examples that prove this beyond any shadow of a doubt. You and Tate don’t understand how thinking otherwise makes you racist.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 4:23 pm to SammyTiger
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But I also don’t think he would define it as Racism.
Are we letting racists define whether they are racist now?
And anyone in the last 100 years who even suggested there was ANY difference in intelligence, mental capacity or cognitive abilities, based on race was branded a racist.
Yet you are saying that he's not racist, he only believes that blacks have to be taught differently.
And before you blame culture, he says in one of his articles that adopted black children who grew up in white families also have problems learning math.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 5/12/21 at 4:35 pm to Open Your Eyes
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So your argument is that extensively and throughout his research, he happens to use a very specific set of words that makeup a phrase that, coincidentally, happens to also be the exact name of a racist ideology that has been around since at least the 1970’s and has a belief system that aligns exactly with what his research is about. But he doesn’t actually subscribe to the ideology, just the 3 words that makeup the ideology’s name.
No my theory is you’re definition of CRT is off from how MANY people who study and subscribe to it would define it.
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That’s right. If your defense of Tate and critical race theory throughout the last week you also made it clear you think black people in Los Angeles and black people in Miami learn the same because they’re black thing. You still don’t understand why that’s racist, do you sammy.
Your literally arguing EVERY human on earth learns the same way. And Saying how we teach is better for white kids than blocs doesn’t mean how we teach is racist, but maybe we should consider teaching different in schools that’s are 100% black.
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The alternative is there in nothing racist in how math is taught or about gifted programs. And there are many examples that prove this beyond any shadow of a doubt. You and Tate don’t understand how thinking otherwise makes you racist.
So why do blacks fall behind statistically?
It’s ok. We all know what you’re thinking.
Don’t be a coward.
And most of my argument has always been; if you’re going to bash a guy for what he writes, you should probably fricking read it first.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 5/12/21 at 4:38 pm to BlackAdam
"Staunch supporter of racism as long as it is normative"? Define normative. Can a white person be a racist as long as his form of racism is normative?' "Acceptable racism"? Is Disney's policy of CRT for its employees acceptable to you? NASA's classes of CRT, in which white employees have to admit being racist & oppressive, acceptable to you?
Posted on 5/12/21 at 4:50 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Let's open it up to a vote where common sense people vote.. SC can keep him.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 4:58 pm to SammyTiger
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Of course y’all are the same guys who said that it’s racist to claim black students might learn differently.
Yes, we think black students are intellectually as capable as whites. We do not think they are inherently inferior, like your people do.
You can wash all the black feet you can find but the CRT folk hate your white skin. If you’re ok with that, as most progs are, then you hate yourself for existing. As most progs do.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 5:01 pm to Keltic Tiger
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"Staunch supporter of racism as long as it is normative"? Define normative. Can a white person be a racist as long as his form of racism is normative?' "Acceptable racism"? Is Disney's policy of CRT for its employees acceptable to you? NASA's classes of CRT, in which white employees have to admit being racist & oppressive, acceptable to you?
Do you not understand that some racism is socially acceptable? You can support CRT and not be ostracized according to 2021 societal norms just like you could support Jim Crow in 1939 and still be considered a swell fella.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 5:04 pm to SammyTiger
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Your literally arguing EVERY human on earth learns the same way.
No, not every human learns the same. Individuals are different. But you think an entire race is different due to skin color.
It’s funny how enthusiastically racist you progs are without ever understanding it.
Imagine how apeshit bonkers you yourself would be if Trump tweeted “black kids aren’t capable of learning like white kids!” But here we are.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 5:08 pm to biglego
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No, not every human learns the same. Individuals are different. But you think an entire race is different due to skin color.
It is ironic how leftist will simultaneously claim black kids learn differently than white kids, and complain that blacks are not treated or viewed as individuals but rather as a race.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 5/12/21 at 5:44 pm to SammyTiger
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No my theory is you’re definition of CRT is off from how MANY people who study and subscribe to it would define it.
My definition of critical race theory is exactly what critical race theory is. You’re attempting to add non-existent nuance to it to convince people to “give it a chance” so they’ll read up further into your racist, destructive ideology.
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Your literally arguing EVERY human on earth learns the same way.
I’ve said or implied nothing of the sort. Keep demonstrating that you don’t know what the word “literally” means though.
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And Saying how we teach is better for white kids than blocs doesn’t mean how we teach is racist
Actually yes. That is literally what it means.
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but maybe we should consider teaching different in schools that’s are 100% black.
So now you’re in favor of reverting back to separate but equal? You fricking morons can never make up your minds
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So why do blacks fall behind statistically?
I know plenty of black people that thrive and do the complete opposite of fall behind, I know plenty of white people that do fall behind, and I know plenty of people of all races that fit into both categories. In almost all cases it’s closely aligned with a combination of family wealth, home life, support system, and personal responsibility.
The fact that you feel the need to simplify it to “blacks falling behind” just further cements the fact that you are a racist piece of shite.
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It’s ok. We all know what you’re thinking.
What am I thinking Sammy?
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Don’t be a coward.
Sammy, youve literally gone days without answering why you’re afraid to admit you support critical race theory. You will NEVER be in position to call anyone else a coward.
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And most of my argument has always been; if you’re going to bash a guy for what he writes, you should probably fricking read it first.
Your argument has been, is now, and always will be wrong. And I don’t give a shite what you or Tate write. I’m talking about what you both believe. You are both ignorant racists, and can write about whatever you want.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 5:46 pm to BlackAdam
So what's the bottom line? Is he coming to LSU or staying at South Carolina?
Posted on 5/12/21 at 6:54 pm to vl100butch
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So what's the bottom line? Is he coming to LSU or staying at South Carolina?
Well the current President, just as I predicted, is gone. So he was apparently the #2 guy last time and was given the Provost position which in essence means he was in charge of the main USC_Columbia campus, Carlsen was President of the USC System statewide.
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