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re: South Carolina trying to keep new LSU president Tate

Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:27 am to
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:27 am to
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If that is what he was saying you’d have a point. But you don’t know what’s he’s saying. So...


It’s what critical race theory says. Despite your attempts to avoid very pointed questions about this exact subject, Tate believes in and supports critical race theory, just like you.

So actually I do have a point, that both of you are racists. You, on the other hand, have no point.

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You asked why I am Not defending David Duke.


No. I asked why you don’t encourage people to be more open-minded about David Duke. You’re just not intelligent enough to understand the difference.

I also asked why you’re too ashamed to admit you support critical race theory. You’re too much of a coward to answer that either.

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Unlike Tate, David Duke has said objectively racist things. David Duke toned down for the mainstream is as racist as you claim CRT is. David Duke when he was open was just openly racist.


Just like the other day with your “reverse racism” nonsense, there is no “as racist.” You’re either racist or you’re not. Your attempts to marginalize racism into degrees of acceptability are definitely noted though.

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Find 1 quote from anything Tate has said or written when here calls white primitive animals.


All this means is unlike you and Tate, Duke is not ashamed of his ignorant beliefs and has no problem putting them out there publicly. All 3 of you are still racists.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 11:30 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26738 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:39 am to
CRT is a hot button issue right now. Multiple states are considering legislation banning it, or have already banned it.

And in that whirlwind, LSU hires a person who espouses that philosophy to lead its entire system.

Were King, or anyone else, being hired today with that research and publishing track record, the outrage would be the same. And justifiably so.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66445 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:41 am to
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It’s what critical race theory says. Despite your attempts to avoid very pointed questions about this exact subject, Tate believes in and supports critical race theory, just like you.



How can you say what it says if you refuse to read it?

It’s what you’ve heard someone say it says.

You admirably refuse to actually look at what Tate is saying.

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No. I asked why you don’t encourage people to be more open-minded about David Duke. You’re just not intelligent enough to understand the difference.


I am Encouraging you to actually read what Tate says before making up your mind as to what he believes. You may have the exact same opinion after you read it, but at least it’s an educated opinion.

I encourage people to use the same process with David Duke. You come out believing he is extremely racist.

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Just like the other day with your “reverse racism” nonsense, there is no “as racist.” You’re either racist or you’re not. Your attempts to marginalize racism into degrees of acceptability are definitely noted though.


Deflection. Deflection. Deflections

Find 1 racist quote from Tate.

1.

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All this means is unlike you and Tate, Duke is not ashamed of his ignorant beliefs and has no problem putting them out there publicly. All 3 of you are still racists.


Again, you don’t know shite about what Tate believes, but you’re literally comparing him to an open racist.


Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19281 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:43 am to
To cut to the chase, CRT promotes the philosophy that white people are, historically, oppressors & black people are the oppressed. If Tate endorses this philosophy, in any form to any degree, he is a racist,no other way to look at it.Duke is a racist & a convicted criminal, serving time in a Federal pen for swindling his followers out of their money. What is reported about Duke here in the States is mild when compared to his speeches through out Europe. And FWIW he admits that he still celebrates Hitler's birthday, April 20th.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89506 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:46 am to
quote:

CRT is a hot button issue right now. Multiple states are considering legislation banning it, or have already banned it.

And in that whirlwind, LSU hires a person who espouses that philosophy to lead its entire system.



It certainly sends a message to supporters and potential supporters of the university and its programs, doesn't it? "Hey, if you cats don't like CRT, you can go frick yourselves."

Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11152 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:51 am to
Somebody start a go fund me to get this clown a raise at SC
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26738 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:51 am to
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I am Encouraging you to actually read what Tate says before making up your mind as to what he believes. You may have the exact same opinion after you read it, but at least it’s an educated opinion.


Is anyone besides you claiming he doesn't believe in CRT? I've read much of his work and it's obvious he believes in CRT. I haven't seen where he even denies it.

He's probably not evangelical about it like some people, but it's a major influence in his beliefs.

That's really not even debatable. We can argue about whether that matters or not, but he's a CRT guy.
Posted by Topcat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2005
450 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:54 am to
For the first time in my life, I hope S. Car. beats us at something.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66445 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:11 pm to
My arguement is that CRT doesn’t mean the same to everyone, and people who study it dont’t all take it to the same places.

Reading what Tate has written, especially his solo published articles, is more informative Than taking the Poli Board definition of CRT and calling it a day.

I am sure a lot of CRT scholars wouldn’t agree they’re just Marxists.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89506 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:18 pm to
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I am sure a lot of CRT scholars wouldn’t agree they’re just Marxists.



You mistake our opinion, sir. A CRT "scholar" isn't "just" a Marxist. He/she/howeveridentifies is also a racist.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26738 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:19 pm to
So, there's levels to racism?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66445 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:32 pm to
Same recycled shite.

Willful ignorance.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26738 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:40 pm to

You can nuance it all you want, but there is no version of CRT that is not racist, by definition.

Black people need special help to succeed.

White people are inherently racist.

That's CRT in a nutshell. Both thoughts assign actions and conditions to groups of people based on their race. Textbook racism.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66445 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

You can nuance it all you want, but there is no version of CRT that is not racist, by definition.




Here is a literal definition that isn’t racist:

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Richard Delgado, a co-founder of the theory, defined it in 2017 as "a collection of activists and scholars interested in studying and transforming the relationship among race, racism, and power


I forget How everyone on this board can be an expert on everything without actually learning about it
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 12:51 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260228 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Here is a literal definition that isn’t racist:


Its racist.

Since it's beginnings, it was turned from a theory that adds context into a true secular model of religion.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95013 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:57 pm to
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Richard Delgado, a co-founder of the theory, defined it in 2017 as "a collection of activists and scholars interested in studying and transforming the relationship among race, racism, and power

Read his book on CRT and tell me he isnt steeped in racism

Here it is, linked for you page by page

Richard Delgados thoughts on CRT

Its an easy read
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

How can you say what it says if you refuse to read it?


Because I have read it. Last summer, when critical race theory started becoming a mainstream ideology during the black lives matter protests.

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It’s what you’ve heard someone say it says.


Except it isn’t, which scares you even more. Because I know exactly what critical race theory is and won’t fall for your “just give it a chance” nonsense.

Why are you so afraid to admit that you support critical race theory Sammy?

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You admirably refuse to actually look at what Tate is saying.


I’m glad you admit it’s admirable to not want to read the self-important musings of a racist.

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I am Encouraging you to actually read what Tate says before making up your mind as to what he believes. You may have the exact same opinion after you read it, but at least it’s an educated opinion.


I don’t have to read a racist’s opinions to be educated about the fact that he’s a racist.

The fact that you’re trying so hard to get people to familiarize themselves with a racist ideology says a hell of a lot more about you and your ignorance than the people you are talking to.

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Deflection. Deflection. Deflections




I directly answer every “point” you make in every post.

You ignore parts of posts or entire posts in general. You refuse to answer direct, pointed questions that you know completely destroy your pathetic attempts arguments. Your cowardice and refusal to admit you support critical race theory precludes you from actually formulating any kind of defense of the ideology, instead relegating you to “just give it a chance” and telling people they’re uneducated because they don’t want read the opinions of a racist.

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Find 1 racist quote from Tate. 1.


Oh, so now you’re at the point of just restating things that have already been addressed. Cool, I can copy/paste too:

“I don’t have to read a racist’s opinions to be educated about the fact that he’s a racist.“

“ All this means is unlike you and Tate, Duke is not ashamed of his ignorant beliefs and has no problem putting them out there publicly. All 3 of you are still racists.”

quote:

Again, you don’t know shite about what Tate believes, but you’re literally comparing him to an open racist.


I know that you and Tate believe in critical race theory.

I know that critical race theory is an ideology grounded in racism.

I know anyone that believes in an ideology grounded in racism is a racist.

I know you and Tate are racists.

I know that you and Tate not being “openly” racist means you’re both cowards afraid to stand up for your beliefs, but still racist.

What do you know Sammy?
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 1:22 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66445 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:26 pm to
What racist beliefs do you think I have?

Also Tate published hay he believes. You just refuse to read it.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68294 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

I say we give ‘em $100,000 to take him back.




I'll donate
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118744 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:30 pm to
Any updates on this situation? Will LSU lose Tate?
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