re: Someone give just one example of systemic racism, just one

Every single city has a "black area of town" and it's always, always poor.

No other race has that. Has to be something to it.

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Every single city has a "black area of town" and it's always, always poor.

No other race has that. Has to be something to it.

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not true, most or poor but not all.

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Coaching hiring in the NFL is systemically racist unless you believe that blacks are generally less qualified to be head coaches.

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Another measurement by outcomes

This is a multi billion dollar business, you think that owners that will literally do anything to win would intentionally not hire black coaches who may be more skilled? Use your head man

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One requires natural, inherent ability and the other is coaching. If you’d legitimately argue that whites are better at coaching, then I’d argue that you’re racist.

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Would you argue that blacks are better at playing? Then you would have to admit you were a racist. If they aren’t then what explains the difference in outcomes? Must be some type of systemic racism right?

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Coaching football does not require any natural skills; anything you need can be taught.

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This is 100% wrong.

And all learning theory will tell you that. Physical and Mental Gifts are just that, gifts. Some people are better at certain types and styles of thinking and creating that others.

Physical skills, creative skills, mental skills - all require some form of natural ability.

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There’s science that proves that people of certain nationalities or backgrounds have genetic predispositions to physical traits.

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You’re going to get yourself in trouble here.

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For it to be systemic, it has to be ingrained in law. It can't just be that someone is a racist, or some company is racist. It has to be a law or a public policy that discriminates against a race.

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You are almost certainly confusing systemic with systematic.

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Maybe I'm wrong on this. Somebody learn me something.

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The examples you gave about AA and other programs are examples of systematic racism, and they are designed to counter the effects of the problem of systemic racism.

If something is systematic, that means that it's something that is intentional and planned. If any law or program gives a specific advantage to one class over another, it is systematic. It is methodical and intended to achieve a particular outcome.



Systemic racism, on the other hand, is racism that is ingrained in nearly everything. The easiest examples to understand, I find, are the numerous studies that show that "whitewashed" resumes get anywhere from 1/4 more to more than twice as many callbacks as resumes with black-sounding names or other racial cues (the effect is similar for hispanics and asians). Here is a recent study.

These studies don't mean that lots of people are "racist", but rather that many of us may have unconscious prejudices that we may not realize. Or maybe it's intentional in a lot of cases, but instead of it being racial, maybe certain names (whether white, black, or whatever) indicate socioeconomic status, and that's what is discriminated against. Whatever the case, the result is that on average minorities have a harder time finding a good job, and many of them actually "whitewash" their own resumes in order to get interviews. I think once they get to the interview, these biases don't have as much impact, but it's still there.

Also, these studies shouldn't be taken to mean that white people are any more racist or prejudiced than other races. Maybe everyone is pretty much equally prejudiced on average, and it's just the fact that white people are the majority means that minorities are impacted by it more.

And while it may not seem like a huge deal (after all, even the non-whitewashed resumes did get some callbacks), more callbacks means more interviews and more opportunities, which correlates with higher earnings, which correlates with wealth accumulation, which correlates with more opportunities for children, etc.

And the same biases are likely to be present after getting a job (promotions, layoffs, etc.), as well as in other areas of our financial (loans, etc.) and personal lives. These issues are not so overwhelming such that they cannot be overcome, but when applied to millions of people the disparity makes a difference in average wealth accumulation and all the issues related to that, such as crime rates, single parent households, teenage pregnancy, etc.

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Also, these studies shouldn't be taken to mean that white people are any more racist or prejudiced than other races. Maybe everyone is pretty much equally prejudiced on average, and it's just the fact that white people are the majority means that minorities are impacted by it more.

And while it may not seem like a huge deal (after all, even the non-whitewashed resumes did get some callbacks), more callbacks means more interviews and more opportunities, which correlates with higher earnings, which correlates with wealth accumulation, which correlates with more opportunities for children, etc.

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Can you think of circumstances whereby what you describe has been reported in the studies is true, but so is the notion that employers were not at all acting in a racist fashion?

Also, if there is a large pool of underutilized black talent, and a humongous pool of underutilized female talent - in this country with a TON of really smart business like, many of them black and/or female, why haven’t any of these really smart business people taken advantage of this situation and blow the dooors off competition by hiring all these I under appreciated, underpaid, and very available employees?

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And the same biases are likely to be present after getting a job (promotions, layoffs, etc.), as well as in other areas of our financial (loans, etc.)

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Are you a lender or bank?

What systemic racism is present in banking?

You seem to be shooting bullets, but wildly and without care or tact for your choice of words. You seem to be very cavalier throwing around a heavy word such as racism. Sometimes, people have biases against those who sling shite on websites.