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re: Social Security and Medicare need to be eliminated

Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28488 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:51 pm to
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Social Security and Medicare need to be eliminated


Pay me what i am owed and then burn it down
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:52 pm to
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Pure poppycock.

If the federal government would cut the wife and myself a check for $1.5 million that should cover all the taxes we and our employers have paid into SS and Medicare over the past 45 years. The $1.5 million includes an annual return of 4-5%.


But to not do it, means someone else will have to sacrifice. Like I said, I don't expect a noble response from Boomers, they were handed everything, will take everything. It's the goal of that generation.

To get everything for themselves and not worry about the consequences. Someone else can take the hit.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55712 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:00 pm to
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Pure poppycock.

If the federal government would cut the wife and myself a check for $1.5 million that should cover all the taxes we and our employers have paid into SS and Medicare over the past 45 years. The $1.5 million includes an annual return of 4-5%.


But to not do it, means someone else will have to sacrifice. Like I said, I don't expect a noble response from Boomers, they were handed everything, will take everything. It's the goal of that generation.

To get everything for themselves and not worry about the consequences. Someone else can take the hit.



Didn't get a damn thing handed to me. Born in 1958 into a family with 8 other siblings.

Got a SSN at age 13, started mowing lawns and doing farm work, laid sod, worked as a carpenter building houses, worked in a meat packing plant, ran heavy equipment, worked on the railroad, went back to school at age 29 for electronic school, took out the loans for school, got an Associates Degree in Applied Science Electronic Technology, after I graduated school I worked for a small circuit board repair company, left there and went to Garmin, left there and went to Allied Signal/Honeywell, left there and worked for SBC/AT+T for 25 years and retired at age 64. Yeah, nobody gave me jack shite.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 5:03 pm
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
28146 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:01 pm to
bullshite about SS. My parents were forced to pay into social security for 50 years and they deserve that money. frick off with your entitled arse.

Let me say that again.. they were forced to pay into social security for 50 years. Again, forced.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26313 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:03 pm to
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My parents were forced to pay into social security for 70 years


No one pays in for 70 years…
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:12 pm to
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Didn't get a damn thing handed to me.




Don't take it personally, really.

Look, I'm not saying you didn't work as a person, I'm saying the generation was given a situation far ahead of anyone else before them and after them. You were handed a mostly well-structured economy, a one income-based economy with a good housing market. Wasn't outsourced, didn't have the complexity of such dominant social programs, etc.

Boomers had something unique, and instead of continuing the good will, Boomers operated in a far more selfish capacity as a generation, completely changed the economic structure, and they did it while they were in power, held power longer than everyone else, and continue to support sinking ships like SS. All of the choices Boomers made while they were the dominant generation were to enrich themselves in that moment, without any thought given to the future. That is true. (But Boomers do think they built some kind of utopia for all other generations, it's hilarious)

You want yours. Look, I get it. Of course that's a natural feeling.

But sacrifice is a thing. Doing the right thing matters. And there is a "right" move here. There is a sacrifice that SOMEONE is going to make. That much is clear. Boomers could realize what they did and maybe help figure out a better way. But again, I don't expect much from a selfish generation.

Here's the thing, you think:

quote:


Started working at age 14 doing farm work, laid sod, worked as a carpenter building houses, worked in a meat packing plant, ran heavy equipment, worked on the railroad, went back to school at age 29 for electronic school, took out the loans for school, got an Associates Degree in Applied Science Electronic Technology, after I graduated school I worked for a small circuit board repair company, left there and went to Garmin, left there and went to Allied Signal/Honeywell, left there and worked for SBC/AT+T for 25 years and retired at age 64.


This is unique? I could rattle off, I had my first job at 12. I had to take a loan out for college, my first job was $35,000 in 2007 out of grad school which doesn't pay for a house blah blah blah. Had a housing crisis, a crash, an economy for two working parents and excessive child and healthcare costs, etc. But I'm not rattling off these things because I think I'm owed something special. it's to hopefully put it into perspective that your individual experience is irrelevant. People have it better and worse than me or you.

But there is a problem to solve, and a hit to take and with all of the good that Boomers had and leveraged the future against, it would be best if they took the hit. It would be right. It would be noble.

But it won't be Boomers. It's not in their blood, they've never proven to leave a better world for those after them. Just debt and brokenness.



Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13389 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:31 pm to
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No. You didn’t actually.



I said exactly what I said in my reply. I just repeated the same thing I typed before.

So yes, I surely did.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13389 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:33 pm to
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Let me say that again.. they were forced to pay into social security for 50 years. Again, forced.


They were forced to pay all the taxes they paid.

So what?
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
9795 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:35 pm to
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Like I said, I don't expect a noble response from Boomers, they were handed everything


No. The younger generations have been handed everything. They just don’t want to work and sacrifice for it.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:50 pm to
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No. The younger generations have been handed everything. They just don’t want to work and sacrifice for it.


There it is...

Yet another typical Boomer response

"We are leaving you a perfect Utopia of Economic and Domestic prosperity. We are amazing, you just don't want to work."

Typical Boomer ideology. Like clockwork.

My favorite Boomer responses:

1. "We had to work for everything we got and you didn't. Uphill Both ways."
2. "We made no bad decisions for society or economy. We are the perfect Human organizers. The best the world has ever seen. Bow to our political perfection. we left no problems in the world. Only utopia."
3. "You should be glad to support us with your tax dollars for everything we have done for you. Bow to us."
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13389 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:50 pm to
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You were handed a mostly well-structured economy, a one income-based economy with a good housing market. Wasn't outsourced, didn't have the complexity of such dominant social programs, etc.


Again, I don't know what age people think Boomers are.

Boomers were born between 1946 and 1964.

So the oldest Boomers would barely have been 21 when the biggest addition to the already robust social welfare programs that had been in place for 30 years were added (Medicare and Medicaid) in the mid-60s.

They would have been around 24 when women flooded the workforce, solidifying the two income lifestyle. They would have been slightly older than that during Carter's Stagflation.

The youngest Boomers would have been in their early 20s when interest rates were sky high in the 80s. Those in the middle of the range would have been around 30 years old trying to buy a house at 18% interest on their mortgage.

Like I posted earlier, the wake of destruction that the Boomers left behind is the cultural rot that they popularized. Feminism, hedonism, post-modernism, etc.

But the timeline just doesn't work for the narrative of "The Boomers had it all."

The Silent Generation was the generation that had the house with two cars and one income, great housing market, etc. But they had that after the oldest ones grew up during the depression and WWII.

There's no magic generation who "had it all" and squandered it.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26313 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:54 pm to
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There's no magic generation who "had it all" and squandered it.


The guy you are replying to had a cheap housing market (2007-2019), low interest rates, relatively low unemployment, and a huge run up in the stock market during his working life.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8244 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
5045 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 6:24 pm to
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There it is...

Yet another typical Boomer response


Who are you sitting like God Almighty pronouncing judgements on generations? You decide who gets to keep their rightful payout and who is the group to get cutout. Then you blame Boomers for being selfish because they won’t accept your judgement and call them ungrateful for not being thankful and understanding for not getting their retirement.

frick off!
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
5045 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 6:52 pm to
Crickets!!!

And get rid of deadbeats getting disability and children’s benefits. Those kids didn’t pay in to SS. Why should they get benefits? Thats not what it was designed for. Pull that money out of welfare or some other government budget.

And foreigners shouldn’t get SS payments. This was set up for US citizens. Pull that money out of welfare too, or cut that expenditure out completely.

Your generation is in charge now, whippersnapper, so “Chop chop.” Snap to it! Y’all need to straighten this out so I can get my check! yall are in charge now, so the blame going forward lies at y’all’s feet!
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23964 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 7:05 pm to
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But to not do it, means someone else will have to sacrifice. Like I said, I don't expect a noble response from Boomers, they were handed everything, will take everything. It's the goal of that generation

I take my and my wife's SS and roll it into a market account. It's grown pretty well.
We are all going to go to some kind of home before we die. My SS nest egg will pay for it.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15795 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 7:07 pm to
They can cancel SS AFTER they give me every dime plus interest i paid in for for over 45 years
Posted by Bsltee
Member since Mar 2022
65 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 7:17 pm to
Doesn't fit his narrative
Posted by Sid E Walker
BackdoorU ©
Member since Nov 2013
25625 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 7:38 pm to
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All of the choices Boomers made while they were the dominant generation were to enrich themselves in that moment, without any thought given to the future. That is true. (But Boomers do think they built some kind of utopia for all other generations, it's hilarious)

You’re full of shite. Boomers didn’t spend their working years “enriching” ourselves. We were fricking supporting the kids (that we love) through their early years, paid for their college fees that weren’t covered by scholarships, allowed them to move back home when the well-paying jobs weren’t there and they couldn’t afford to live on their own into their 30s. My youngest (of four) is wrapping up her sophomore year at college and yes, I am paying for that with two more years to go.

I have spent my so-called “boomer enrichment” on the next couple of generations, so eff off.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4682 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 7:42 pm to
Yet no mention of the deep, dark hole that is defense spending.
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