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re: So much for the 1st Amendment: Dolphins will suspend, fine players who protest

Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36834 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:09 pm to
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All because some pussy conservatives needed a safe space from Colin Kaepernick
There is truth to this.

As funny as SJW ridiculousness has become, it's equally amusing that NFL/Kneeling is the conservative equivalent.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94375 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:11 pm to
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So much for the 1st Amendment: Dolphins will suspend, fine players who protest
Up to 4 games, plus fines.



When did Dolphins become a government entity?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112284 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:12 pm to
Funny thing is that if you simply ignored it, it wouldn’t be controversial. Everytime it falls out of the news cycle they start talking about finding new ways to protest, but then someone throws gas on the flame and gives power to the entire protest in the first place

Forced patriotism isn’t patriotic. I don’t care what people do during the national anthem, life is way to short to worry that much about other people’s shite that much.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68057 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:13 pm to
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So much for the 1st Amendment:
You're an idiot. The First protects you from government trampling your speech. A private institution can't jail you for speech, but they can fine you for speech on their time.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:14 pm to
The NFL owners keep finding ways to shot themselves in the foot. It’s quite comical.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36289 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:18 pm to
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Dolphins probably making a huge mistake, but in no way is this unconstitutional.

The Dolphins are merely exhaustively listing a wide array of corrective actions for when the incidents happen. It would be illegal to punish by methods that are different than the corrective actions submitted to the league or to increase the punishments.

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By submitting maximum penalties, they can easily tailor those back. But once the paperwork is submitted, it is the team's understanding that you can't increase potential discipline for conduct detrimental. One source said there is no expectation that a player will be suspended four games -- listed as the maximum possible penalty -- for protesting during the anthem
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 7:22 pm
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6509 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:20 pm to
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So much for the 1st Amendment: Dolphins will suspend, fine players who protest by Saint Sinner
Up to 4 games, plus fines.




Yes, its their first amendment right to protest. Just like its the right of the PRIVATE business owner(s) to suspend the guy that feels the need to do that on company time.

Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145085 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:22 pm to
Jesus christ, NFL ownership is remarkably stupid
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36834 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:23 pm to
We're on the same page today brother.

It's bait on the hook and idiots keep going for it. When it seemingly goes away, they recast the line. Rinse, repeat.

And yes, it's absolutely forced patriotism. I served a voluntary military and consider myself a patriot - I couldn't care less about NFL players kneeling.

I equate it to people that suddenly hate their favorite actor/actress/musician because of some political view or lifestyle choice. I'm not watching those folks for their opinions, I just like your music or movies.
Posted by Flat Stanley
Austin
Member since May 2018
164 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:24 pm to
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No it’s not, and I know you’re trolling. They died to make sure you don’t go to jail for it.

You telling me what my buddies died for, now? Listen here motherfricker, my friends died for the rights of them football players and not for some sissy rednecks who get offended by minorities!
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53052 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:26 pm to
I don't know, man. There are a lot of people (especially rednecks) who just don't want to be reminded of shitty things in the world when they put on a football game and crack a Bud. NFL is just catering to those baws.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61117 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:28 pm to
They can protest when they arent on the company's dime.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 7:29 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71524 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:31 pm to
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The NFL owners keep finding ways to shot themselves in the foot. It’s quite comical.



It's very funny that their solution to the issue couldn't even make it to training camp without being shite on by both sides.
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33001 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:31 pm to
Are the dolphins a government entity ?
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15242 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:33 pm to
So is this for any player who elects to stay in the locker room. Or just the players who kneel on the field?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112284 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:34 pm to
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know, man. There are a lot of people (especially rednecks) who just don't want to be reminded of shitty things in the world when they put on a football game and crack a Bud. NFL is just catering to those baws.


They are the ones keeping this situation alive. If they were catering to people who didn’t want to think about it then they would ignore it.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103484 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:35 pm to
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So much for the 1st Amendment
Posted by Flat Stanley
Austin
Member since May 2018
164 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:38 pm to
I wish the people complaining about would just state the real reasons they don't like it. They don't give a shite about the troops or "patriotism".
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75392 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:38 pm to
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Has nothing to do with the 1st amendment
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13652 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:38 pm to
Do people not realize that companies don’t want you expressing political beliefs/protesting while on the clock? I’m sure that a sales clerk would be fired if they said “frick Trump/Obama” to every customer they encountered.
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