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re: so media is saying the video disproves Ahmad was a burglar
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:24 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:24 pm to Roger Klarvin
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It’s really sad to watch some of you holding out hope for something, anything, to point to that allows you to say “aha!” As if there’s anything he could have done immediately prior to that video warranting what was done to him by those idiots.
I really wish you’d cut through the facade and just say “the n***** deserved it” to make it clear where we all stand.
You seem to crave the need for people to show racism.
I for one want to find out if the guy was a criminal. It would explain the actions even if it doesn’t justify them.
Your position is completely emotional.
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:24 pm to ShortyRob
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But meh, not really.
I mean. If I'd just come out of a home with something and you yelled at me and started chasing me, I'm liable to ditch what I have.
Or, if you spotted me in the act, I might never actually take possession of an item.
I don't know if either of those things happened, but the video doesn't answer those questions at all.
But again, these two guys are going to jail regardless because what they did WAS STILL A CRIME.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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But again, these two guys are going to jail regardless because what they did WAS STILL A CRIME.
Probably so.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:26 pm to moneyg
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Your position is completely emotional.
It’s the only rational position because, again, whether or not he was a thief has no bearing on whether or not the accused committed a violent felony.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:29 pm to Roger Klarvin
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It’s the only rational position because, again, whether or not he was a thief has no bearing on whether or not the accused committed a violent felony.
Right - but it might make the difference between this being two idiots trying out their vigilante card against a dude that might have been stealing things versus these same two idiots deciding the black jogger in the neighborhood had to go - "just because".
You know me, Roger, I don't think it should matter if they killed the guy because he was wearing Vans, was too tall or wearing a Jags hat. But, the press and the media will care and it will matter, unfortunately.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:30 pm to Roger Klarvin
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It’s the only rational position because, again, whether or not he was a thief has no bearing on whether or not the accused committed a violent felony.
I don’t think whether or not the accused is guilty is the only question.
Start thinking and stop feeling.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:32 pm to ShortyRob
I mean I can probably think of a series of events that explains why Arbery was in this neighborhood. He might regularly jog along one road, Fancy Bluff, and decided to extend his route, because he wasn't seen once on Satilla, but multiple times. If he was coming across the interstate, which is about 1 mile to the west, that means if he was as avid as people say he was, he could probably jog a decent distance. So he extended his regular route to include the southern neighborhood off US-17 which was an extension of his usual route. He came to a dead-end that represents Satilla Dr, and walked past the house under construction to see the river, which explains why the homeowner's surveillance video saw him on the dock. The extension of the route also explains why he appeared in that neighborhood at least 3 times, as referenced in the initial police report. It seems weird that he would return to a place he robbed, on foot, on 3 separate occasions, for the purposes of casing potential robbery targets or for further robbery, especially in the middle of the day, when he could have easily used a vehicle to do the same thing.
Of course, he might have been the suspect who robbed the McMichael's on the 1st of January, and might have returned, but it makes little sense to me that a robber would continue to jog along roads that passed by places he robbed before. Obviously, all this is massive speculation.
Of course, he might have been the suspect who robbed the McMichael's on the 1st of January, and might have returned, but it makes little sense to me that a robber would continue to jog along roads that passed by places he robbed before. Obviously, all this is massive speculation.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:35 pm to Powerman
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The fact that there wasn't any sort of real investigation here is the main problem
I mean, how can anyone take the McMichael's claim seriously that there were regular burglaries in the area when the person who supposedly was robbed says the footage he has only shows trespassing? At the minimum, the police should have investigated what was stolen.
Like I've said, they invited a lot of intrigue for themselves with how poorly they handled this.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:37 pm to crazy4lsu
Wasn't one of the guys in the truck an ex-cop?
I don't like jumping to conclusions but that is the most likely explanation as to why this took so long to make an arrest.
I don't like jumping to conclusions but that is the most likely explanation as to why this took so long to make an arrest.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:39 pm to crazy4lsu
Agreed. My 83 year old grandfather walks 5 miles every day. A healthy 25 year old running miles from home isn't suspicious.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:40 pm to imhim1977
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Where do I put the stolen merchandise?do I jog home with it?
So no possibility that he isn't the only person burglarizing places, and that the getaway vehicle and this guy parted ways?
It's certainly irrelevant to the guy being killed, but there are still yet mountains of information that it's impossible to know at this point.
Would a reasonable person believe e was going to be executed by these two idiots? If you were innocently out jogging, don't you put your hands up, and wait for the police? Could there possibly have been a worse outcome than what happened, if he had just surrendered to these idiots, and waited for the police?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:40 pm to Azkiger
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Agreed. My 83 year old grandfather walks 5 miles every day. A healthy 25 year old running miles from home isn't suspicious.
No kidding
And maybe it's a safer neighborhood to run in than his own
Who knows why he liked running there
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:40 pm to Azkiger
Apparently he lived on the eastside of the Interstate, less than 2 miles from the McMichael's. It isn't very hard to imagine him wanting to extend his running route, as there aren't that many other places to run in that immediate area.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:41 pm to Azkiger
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Wasn't one of the guys in the truck an ex-cop?
He had been a cop in the police force and an investigator in the DA's office
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:41 pm to Azkiger
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Wasn't one of the guys in the truck an ex-cop?
The dad was an investigator for the DA, and apparently was suspended for something.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:42 pm to moneyg
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I don’t think whether or not the accused is guilty is the only question.
Start thinking and stop feeling.
Yeah, there are lots of things to think about. Did the victim leave the toilet seat up? Did he cut in line at the DMV? Did he cheat on a test in third grade. All good things to think about, right?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:43 pm to troyt37
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So no possibility that he isn't the only person burglarizing places, and that the getaway vehicle and this guy parted ways?
Yea, I've seen a lot of bank robbery movies where they put the money in the get away car then just jog home
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Would a reasonable person believe e was going to be executed by these two idiots? If you were innocently out jogging, don't you put your hands up, and wait for the police? Could there possibly have been a worse outcome than what happened, if he had just surrendered to these idiots, and waited for the police?
How would he know their intentions? He's being followed and people with guns are attempting to stop him. To be perfectly honest I'm not going to be very complaint with that. They're lucky he wasn't armed or they could be dead.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:44 pm to jchamil
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Incompetency is probably the best case scenario with that DA. It sadly looks like there is a good chance there was an attempt at a cover up. Look at their story in the police report, it would seem they said all of the right things for citizens arrest and self-defense; compare that to the video and it doesn't add up. Were they coached on what to say in the police report thinking no video would come out?
I'm from the area. Jackie Johnson has a protracted history of being a pretty shitty DA. Look up handling of cases like (Robert?) Cory Sasser, Caroline Small, etc... Unfortunately, like many smaller towns, since taking the position I'm pretty sure Johnson has run unopposed in all subsequent elections.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:45 pm to troyt37
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So no possibility that he isn't the only person burglarizing places, and that the getaway vehicle and this guy parted ways?
Is there no possibility that he’s a member of a 30-person crime ring stealing things all across Georgia and the Southeast?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:47 pm to the808bass
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Is there no possibility that he’s a member of a 30-person crime ring stealing things all across Georgia and the Southeast?
Maybe he was an extraterrestrial and not a human at all.
Can you commit "murder" against a non-human?
This will be the court case of the ages.
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