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re: so media is saying the video disproves Ahmad was a burglar
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:11 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:11 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
There is more evidence of jogging than we have evidence that he was involved in anything more than trespassing.
And I'll be honest. I've probably trespassed on a residential construction site plenty of times. And I'd bet plenty of other people have as well
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:12 pm to crazy4lsu
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There's a quote in The Guardian from someone who lives just north of this particular neighborhood that he did jog regularly in the area
OK. I can already hear the responses to this question, but it's valid nonetheless.
Do we know who this "witness" was?
Cause no offense, but after these cases, I've learned that it would be utter insanity to believe certain witnesses. I know that sounds bad. It's not my fault. Pattern is pattern.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:13 pm to ShortyRob
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There better not end up being any substantial and KNOWN personal character land mines for the victim if they go that route because no matter how many people say, "meh, doesn't matter", a jury will think it matters.
Many juries will pause on convicting on first degree murder in a situation like this regardless, so I believe the prosecutor would be foolish to pursue that angle, UNLES there is something earth shattering that has not been revealed yet...
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:13 pm to Powerman
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And I'll be honest. I've probably trespassed on a residential construction site plenty of times. And I'd bet plenty of other people have as well
I have, same for my wife, father and mother, and most of my current neighbors.
Every neighborhood I've ever been in people walk in and out of houses that are under construction. It's not until doors go up and are locked that people stop.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:13 pm to Strannix
quote:Because they are incompetent and lazy.
if it didnt why would the media push the false narrative????
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:13 pm to Powerman
quote:
And I'll be honest. I've probably trespassed on a residential construction site plenty of times. And I'd bet plenty of other people have as well
I just did...……..multiple times...…...last weekend.
I'm house shopping and was checking out partially constructed homes! Especially their lots.
Still alive though.
(for those that can't detect humor, I'm being light hearted here)
But yeah. I was trespassing
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:15 pm to Strannix
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so media is saying the video disproves Ahmad was a burglar
Do you have a link to this?
All I have found is the media quoting his mother:
quote:
Arbery’s mother, Wanda Cooper, told CBS News that the newly emerged video “proves that my son was not committing a crime. He was out for his daily jog and he was hunted down like an animal and killed.”
LINK
Similar versions of the quote appear in other articles, but the source is slightly different, from CBS:
quote:
"The mere fact that this video exists, but you haven't seen it — what do you hope this video proves?" CBS News asked Arbery's mother, Wanda Jones.
"Proves that my son was not committing a crime. He was out for his daily jog and he was hunted down like an animal and killed," Jones said.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:15 pm to The Maj
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Many juries will pause on convicting on first degree murder in a situation like this regardless, so I believe the prosecutor would be foolish to pursue that angle, UNLES there is something earth shattering that has not been revealed yet...
Yeah.
Because it would be damned hard to prove intent to kidnap and, I can already hear the shooter in my head saying, "I never wanted to shoot him but I got scared when he came at me"
Which, of course, is still his fault...……...but makes murder an uphill climb
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:15 pm to Strannix
Haven't watched the video, don't know what happened other than someone shot someone, and I don't even care.
Exception would be if I found out the person who dies votes on the left! Then I would rejoice!
Exception would be if I found out the person who dies votes on the left! Then I would rejoice!
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:16 pm to Powerman
quote:
And I'll be honest. I've probably trespassed on a residential construction site plenty of times. And I'd bet plenty of other people have as well
I've peed in many open construction sites. I suspect that is not uncommon.
I also think it was interesting the neighbor mentioned he was seen on the dock to the river. His trespassing might be as innocent as wanting to see the river, taking a break from a run, or it might be as sinister as he wanted to case potential robbery sites.
The fact that the justification of regularly burglaries was used, and we have absolutely no proof of those burglaries doesn't help the McMichael's claim.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:17 pm to ShortyRob
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So, he's common to your neighborhood
I'm sure you think you had a point...……….whoops
yeah commonly pops up to rummage through people’s shite and steal stuff. Which i think would increase his chances of someone putting a bullet in him.
and yet still never been shot.
know why? because you can’t go around just shooting at people no matter what they’d done the previous time you saw them.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:18 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Do we know who this "witness" was?
Yes
LINK
quote:
One of them was Lauren Bennett, 26, who says running was what Arbery was known for around their Fancy Bluff neighborhood in Brunswick. Her security camera would ping into her phone as he raced by each day.
“Yup, there goes Ahmaud,” she told the Guardian, recalling his bouts of exercise. She’d heard he used to wave to another neighbor on his daily runs
Now that there is a competent investigation (hopefully), we will probably see how accurate this is.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:18 pm to ShortyRob
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quote:
The lack of any stolen property on him is a good start.
But meh, not really.
I mean. If I'd just come out of a home with something and you yelled at me and started chasing me, I'm liable to ditch what I have.
Or, if you spotted me in the act, I might never actually take possession of an item.
I don't know if either of those things happened, but the video doesn't answer those questions at all.
You probably think there had actually been burglaries in the neighborhood just on the word of those two frickwads.
How do we know that you don't have butt sex with 8 year old boys?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:19 pm to Strannix
Unlike the media I’m not going to obsess over this and they’re winning when you do
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:20 pm to crazy4lsu
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Yes LINK
Welp
That will be very unhelpful for the defense.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:21 pm to crazy4lsu
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Now that there is a competent investigation (hopefully), we will probably see how accurate this is.
The fact that there wasn't any sort of real investigation here is the main problem
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:21 pm to Strannix
It’s really sad to watch some of you holding out hope for something, anything, to point to that allows you to say “aha!” As if there’s anything he could have done immediately prior to that video warranting what was done to him by those idiots.
I really wish you’d cut through the facade and just say “the n***** deserved it” to make it clear where we all stand.
I really wish you’d cut through the facade and just say “the n***** deserved it” to make it clear where we all stand.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:22 pm to BamaGradinTn
quote:If you read this thread, you'll discover I think no such thing.
You probably think there had actually been burglaries in the neighborhood just on the word of those two frickwads.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:22 pm to ShortyRob
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But the fact that no goods have been found or even referenced undermines the idea that they could perform a citizens arrest.
True
But I'm just here to tell you that if I were on a jury for this case and evidence was presented that the deceased had been busted for stealing in THAT neighborhood before and that the shooters were specifically aware of this fact, it's gonna impact how I few the goings on.
And that's why there's no fricking way you'd ever end up on the jury.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:22 pm to Powerman
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The fact that there wasn't any sort of real investigation here is the main problem
That is THE problem.
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