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re: So did Pretti’s gun go off in the agent’s hand or not?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:20 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:20 am to Vacherie Saint
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None of this nonsense is happening anywhere but Minneapolis where state and local leaders are refusing to support federal law enforcement and actively agitating protestors against federal agents.
I sincerely believe the Minnesota officials are urging more of this kind of stuff in the hopes they can create another 'george floyd' moment to help divert attention away from their monumental corruption and lawlessness.
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:22 am to Vacherie Saint
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The left gets fricking played over and over again by Democrat politicians and they never learn.
The left has no shortage of suicide bombers.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:24 am to djsdawg
This shooting is one hundred percent on Walz, Frey and Ellison. I am surprised there haven't been more. Walz continues to speak out to deflect from his fraud investigation.
Walz and company are speaking to the lunatic fringe in Minnesota. Apparently there are a lot of lunatics in Minnesota. Only a lunatic would arm themselves and then go harass armed ICE agents who are going after the worst of the illegals let into our country by Biden.
I want ICE to continue removing the worst of the worst brought into our country by leftards. And if any more leftist lunatics, armed with a gun or a car, attack ICE and are shot, too bad.
Walz and company are speaking to the lunatic fringe in Minnesota. Apparently there are a lot of lunatics in Minnesota. Only a lunatic would arm themselves and then go harass armed ICE agents who are going after the worst of the illegals let into our country by Biden.
I want ICE to continue removing the worst of the worst brought into our country by leftards. And if any more leftist lunatics, armed with a gun or a car, attack ICE and are shot, too bad.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:25 am to baybeefeetz
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Stop calling this guy a terrorist. He disrupted law enforcement, at worst.
What would you call an ideologically-oriented, organized group that is setting out to disrupt law enforcement? Terrorist does seem to be a stretch. But it’s not really a cartel or a gang.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:28 am to ChineseBandit58
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This is quite a requirement - sounds like you are demanding perfection.
No. There is a large gap between perfection and shoving women
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:28 am to baybeefeetz
There is zero evidence at this point that he ever took out his gun and brandished it or that the agents ever saw a firearm before wrestling him down…
What is clear is that they shot the guy while he was down. But who cares, right? He was just a nurse at the VA hospital. And he obviously was a paid terrorist
who planned on a mass shooting…
What is clear is that they shot the guy while he was down. But who cares, right? He was just a nurse at the VA hospital. And he obviously was a paid terrorist
who planned on a mass shooting…
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:29 am to Vacherie Saint
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Every single report was that the protester approached with a firearm that was clearly visible to the agents.
Oh so that's why they yell GUN when they discover the firearm?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:29 am to KiwiHead
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Trying to create a justifiable narrative, are we.
One thing is for certain...often times we create our own demise...and this guy did. He should not have been there interfering. He caused the confusion and commotion, that ultimately ended his life. You kick a hornets nest...don't be shocked when you're stung.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:29 am to VOR
quote:Listen to Voice of Retard go!
What is clear is that they shot the guy while he was down. But who cares, right? He was just a nurse at the VA hospital. And he obviously was a paid terrorist
who planned on a mass shooting…
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:33 am to VOR
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What is clear is that they shot the guy while he was down.
Evidence shows him actively resisting and attempting to get to his feet.
Funny how you leave that out
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:33 am to baybeefeetz
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Stop calling this guy a terrorist. He disrupted law enforcement, at worst. He did not commit any acts of terrorism, so stfu on that.
No, if innocent white conservative men walking around are domestic terrorists then these paid protesters deserve the title of terrorist. 2 can play this game.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:36 am to VOR
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There is zero evidence
There is 100% evidence that he shoved a federal agent, which led to him being detained, which he resisted, which led to him being taken to the ground, which he continued to resist, which led to his weapon being exposed, which led to agents calling “Gun, Gun!”, which led to that weapon being grappled over and eventually firing, which led to the agents discharging their munitions into Pretti.
All within seconds….
shite happens.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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No. There is a large gap between perfection and shoving women
You should go on leftist web sites and tell those "women" to quit interfering with the removal of rapists, murderers, pedophiles, drug dealers, etc..
The silent majority wants them removed. Quit interfering!
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 10:37 am
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:37 am to Rainier Fog
Yeah. The organized groups of disrupters are at least as much of a terrorist as the Bundys.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:37 am to VOR
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There is zero evidence at this point that he ever took out his gun and brandished it or that the agents ever saw a firearm before wrestling him down…
What is clear is that they shot the guy while he was down. But who cares, right?
Oh, and I do like how you skipped the entire part where the weapon did become exposed and grappled over, which is an immediate deadly threat to the agents and the public.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:38 am to djsdawg
So far, still nothing to justify use of deadly force according to every legitimate law enforcement agency guidelines…
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:39 am to the808bass
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What would you call an ideologically-oriented, organized group that is setting out to disrupt law enforcement? Terrorist does seem to be a stretch. But it’s not really a cartel or a gang.
He's definitely a terrorist.
Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims. The term is used in this regard primarily to refer to intentional violence during peacetime or in the context of war against non-combatants.
Modern terrorism, evolving from earlier iterations, employs various tactics to pursue political goals, often leveraging fear as a strategic tool to influence decision makers. By targeting densely populated public areas such as transportation hubs, airports, shopping centers, tourist attractions, and nightlife venues, terrorists aim to instill widespread insecurity, prompting policy changes through psychological manipulation and undermining confidence in security measures.[6]
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 10:41 am
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
lol. Yeah. Thats what cops do when they see a firearm.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:41 am to VOR
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still nothing to justify use of deadly force according to every legitimate law enforcement agency guidelines
You have zero consistency. You’re solely angry because ICE is enforcing a Trump policy and they shot a fellow leftist.
This is an armed Ashli Babbit, to create an analogy where you defended law enforcement use of force.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:41 am to Vacherie Saint
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100%. If he was ordered to surrender the gun, then instead decided to fight agents and fought them for the gun as they tried to disarm him, he’s almost certainly going to get shot.
I have no sympathy for the guy but this is simply not true. There are at least 4 officers in the pile trying to subdue this guy. None have their weapons drawn. Some have cans of mace. The guy that ultimately does the shooting is holding a can of mace and appears to be observing for the majority of the video.. It is only when the officer in the grey jacket circles around behind the pile that the weapon is exposed. That is when you see olive jacket unholster his weapon.
I’ve watched this shooting from every angle, at normal speed and slowed down dozens of times. The dead guy’s gun is concealed under his long shirt/jacket until grey jacket retrieves it. If they had ordered him to surrender the weapon, they would have first had to have seen it. Absolutely no one in that pile is focused on his weapon because they aren’t even aware he’s armed.. Grey Jacket retrieves the weapon with his right hand, olive Jacket mistakes this to be the perp retrieving it, he arms himself and begins to move into position, green jacket accidentally discharges the weapon and olive jacket still believing the perp is armed kills him. It’s all right there in the video
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