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Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:42 am to maine82
Ugh, this is why no one takes those kids seriously:
Uh I dunno, maybe confronted the shooter instead of cowering?
A good job eh? How did that perimeter work out when Cruz just mosey'ed on out to Subway and Walmart?
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However, a ninth-grade English teacher Felicia Burgin has said she believes the criticism is unfair. “There is no one that is going to tell you a negative thing about Deputy Peterson," she said, explaining the officer wouldn’t have stood a chance against Cruz, who was armed with an AR-15 rifle.
“I don’t know what he could have done other than literally died,” Burgin added.
According to the New York Post Peterson reportedly believed he did his duty. “He believed he did a good job calling in the location, setting up the perimeter and calling in the description,” local police union official, Jim Bell said.
Uh I dunno, maybe confronted the shooter instead of cowering?
A good job eh? How did that perimeter work out when Cruz just mosey'ed on out to Subway and Walmart?
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:43 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Naw I like my odds with a thousand unprotected targets setting at desks.
Of course you do because you think metal gear solid is reality
Do you think Dennis Prager is an idiot? He said letting teachers arm themselves is the most rational first step we can do right now.
Arguing with you people is a lesson in futility because you live in a fantasy world. Im sure in your world where trannies are perfectly sane, men and women have no innate differences, everyone is perfectly equal, every rich person is evil, lowering taxes will hurt the economy, diversity is our greatest strength, letting teachers arm themselves is completely irrational...
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:44 am to bamafan1001
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In a school shooting situation yes. I realize its asking a lot for you people to be rational but your ideal situation of the shooter just randomly feeling guilty and dropping his weapons before he shoots more people is ridiculously unrealistic
Sure in metal gear solid or an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:44 am to The Spleen
quote:no, it highlights the problems with the idea that only cops should be armed because they are going to protect us. You are telling me you think a teacher inside the building is just going to sit there and let themselves be shot if they have a gun on their hip and are trained to use it?
And that highlights one of the problems with the idea of arming teachers.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:45 am to The Spleen
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Not a single one of my teacher friends want to bring a gun into their classroom, even the ultra conservative ones.
What kind of teachers are these people? Just curious.
Btw, if my school allowed me to carry, I would.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:45 am to Jbird
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So a good guy with a gun didn't save them by Jbird
That's the disconnect, a guy with a gun, earning a paycheck for being there with a gun didn't stop them.
Any teachers/administrators that volunteered to undergo arms training and have a weapon available to them would be doing it for another reason, other than a paycheck, for the actual ability to either survive themselves, or protect others.
Those motives are vastly different, and ultimately that's what's going to drive that individuals actions
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:45 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:Descending into stupidity, well done.
Sure in metal gear solid or an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:45 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Sure in metal gear solid or an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie
You can go ahead and admit you have no clue what you're talking about. It's ok. We won't judge.
...well, not too much anyway.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:49 am to The_Duke
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Doesn't this kinda destroy the argument that we need armed guards at schools now?
I mean a sheriff's deputy was there and didn't stop anything.
No, not at all. One sheriff's deputy waiting for retirement and acting like a coward is not justification for removing armed guards from schools.
Liberals say they want to end school shootings and then make lame excuses for any solution that doesn't support their true agenda of banning guns.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:49 am to Jyrdis
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What kind of teachers are these people?
Most are elementary or middle school. One high school English teacher. One has a gun everywhere she goes except her school. She has no interest in taking it into her classroom.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:51 am to The Spleen
Spleen you said there are plenty of effective things that could be done, I was hoping you would gives us those.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:51 am to Jbird
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So a good guy with a gun didn't save them
If a “good guy” has a gun and fails to act then he is not a “good guy with a gun.” He is a coward with a gun.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:52 am to The Spleen
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One has a gun everywhere she goes except her school. She has no interest in taking it into her classroom.
Does she think the idea of announcing to the world that she doesn't is a good idea? Why, if so?
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:53 am to Jbird
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Descending into stupidity, well done.
He never left. Im amazed at how irrational these people are.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:56 am to The Spleen
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She has no interest in taking it into her classroom.
No shite, shed get canned and prosecuted with the quickness.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:57 am to chickenpotpie
I'm on the side of "there is no solution". Both sides are pandering to their base to try and quiet the anger
Posted on 2/23/18 at 11:11 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Like what's better than a school shooter, a school shootout
It is FAR FAR better to have a school shootout, where bullets are flying at the attacker, than a school shooting, where bullets are only flying at innocents.
That you think otherwise proves you know nothing about violence and shouldn’t contribute to the discussion.
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 11:23 am
Posted on 2/23/18 at 11:13 am to The_Duke
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I'm on the side of "there is no solution". Both sides are pandering to their base to try and quiet the anger
I often think the idea that we can create a human utopia is one of the more dangerous ideas to have ever affected humanity.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 11:14 am to idlewatcher
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Tell that to the thousands of people who protect their homes from intruders....and live to tell about it.
Yep, twice at my home and several instances at my business.
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