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Simple test for "did tax reform screw me"?
Posted on 2/8/19 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 2/8/19 at 4:37 pm
Assuming your adjusted gross income was very close to the same in 2017 and 2018.
Look at your 2018 Form 1040.
Divide (Line 15 minus Line 18A, 18B, 18C, and Sch 5, Line 71, 72, and 73) by Line 10. Get a percentage.
Look at your 2017 Form 1040
Divide (Line 63 minus Lines 66, 67, 68, 69, 71, 72, 73) by Line 43. Get a percentage.
You are trying to determine what percentage of your taxable income (income after all deductions) is taxed, considering credits. No payments, no withholding, no refunds, no balances due, etc. What is your actual percentage of income you owe to the feds? that's all that matters.
If your percentage went down from 2017 to 2018, you were a winner. If your percentage went up from 2017 to 2018, you were probably a loser.
It's a known problem that most people will have a lower federal refund, or high balance due, in 2018. This is because when they adjusted the withholding tables, they reduced withholding too much.
Look at your 2018 Form 1040.
Divide (Line 15 minus Line 18A, 18B, 18C, and Sch 5, Line 71, 72, and 73) by Line 10. Get a percentage.
Look at your 2017 Form 1040
Divide (Line 63 minus Lines 66, 67, 68, 69, 71, 72, 73) by Line 43. Get a percentage.
You are trying to determine what percentage of your taxable income (income after all deductions) is taxed, considering credits. No payments, no withholding, no refunds, no balances due, etc. What is your actual percentage of income you owe to the feds? that's all that matters.
If your percentage went down from 2017 to 2018, you were a winner. If your percentage went up from 2017 to 2018, you were probably a loser.
It's a known problem that most people will have a lower federal refund, or high balance due, in 2018. This is because when they adjusted the withholding tables, they reduced withholding too much.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 9:28 pm to LSUFanHouston
This Needs to be posted everywhere.
Who down voted the op for posting how to figure out your tax liability?
Who down voted the op for posting how to figure out your tax liability?
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 2/8/19 at 9:30 pm to LSUFanHouston
Disappointed that some maga dudes on here seem to be fairly moronic on tax stuff. Generally maga people are good with numbers
Posted on 2/8/19 at 9:57 pm to LSUFanHouston
Thank you. I’m tired of seeing people bitch and cry about getting a smaller refund or having to pay a little extra all while forgetting about the extra money in their pay checks throughout the year.
The tax change is reflected in the tax you paid in 2018 vs 2019 not your refund.
The tax change is reflected in the tax you paid in 2018 vs 2019 not your refund.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:26 pm to JOJO Hammer
Obviously I am smart enough to understand that an extra $80/month is $960 and getting back $20 more than last year I am at a net gain of $980.
But I wish now they would have just left the withholding alone and given everyone bigger one time check...They would have noticed that...LOL.
But I wish now they would have just left the withholding alone and given everyone bigger one time check...They would have noticed that...LOL.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:29 pm to tigerterrace
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But I wish now they would have just left the withholding alone and given everyone bigger one time check...They would have noticed that...LOL.
You wish everyone was forced to give the government an interest free loan for a year? WTF?
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:34 pm to LSUFanHouston
I got screwed if I hadn't mentioned it previously
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:38 pm to tigersnipen
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Who down voted the op for posting how to figure out your tax liability?
Given that we have had retards screaming about Orange Man Bad and Tax Cuts Were Only For The Rich for 14 months now it is reasonable to be skeptical of anyone starting a thread that they stole from Reddit.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 10:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
Easy rule of thumb: everyone got a tax cut (or stayed the same) except for very high income earners (like 500k+) in California, New York, and Connecticut.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:52 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:It "screwed" EVERYONE, by adding to the deficit and the national debt.
Simple test for "did tax reform screw me"?
Do some get to keep more money in the short-term? Sure. But aren't Dems supposed to be the irrational, short-term thinkers?
Posted on 2/9/19 at 12:19 am to AggieHank86
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It "screwed" EVERYONE, by adding to the deficit and the national debt.
Did it? How can we know until we know what the total income tax receipts by the government were for 2018? Is that known prior to everyone completing their taxes?lowering rates does not automatically lead to reduced tax receipts.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 3:18 am to thelawnwranglers
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I got screwed if I hadn't mentioned it previously
If you live in a state that has high taxes, you should've or vote your high tax politicians out of office. The rest of the US has been subsidizing high tax states. This has never been fair, and Trump fixed it.
If your state charges you $15,000 in property taxes, buy mine charges $2000, then you get to deduct an extra $13,000. Why should I be penalized just because my state taxes are lower. Your state needs to stop taking more of the people's money, and lower your taxes. This is not any fault of prez Trump.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 4:09 am to AggieHank86
quote:
It "screwed" EVERYONE, by adding to the deficit and the national debt.
Do some get to keep more money in the short-term? Sure. But aren't Dems supposed to be the irrational, short-term thinkers?
and changed the entire arc of the economy going forward
What a fricking idiot you are
Posted on 2/9/19 at 4:36 am to LSUFanHouston
I don't file my taxes untill October. I don't really care if I am paying more but I will let you know.
This post was edited on 2/9/19 at 4:53 am
Posted on 2/9/19 at 4:52 am to AggieHank86
quote:
the deficit and the national debt.
We don’t care about that right now
Posted on 2/9/19 at 5:14 am to JOJO Hammer
Getting a tax refund is one of the worst ways to manage your money. In effect, you have been giving the Feds a tax free loan throughout the year. Why can't people see this?
Posted on 2/9/19 at 5:30 am to PEPE
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except for very high income earners (like 500k+) in California, New York, and Connecticut.
B/c of SALT limits?
Posted on 2/9/19 at 6:37 am to AggieHank86
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This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 2/9/19 at 7:16 am to AggieHank86
quote:Can you run those numbers as they will exist in 5yrs and onward?
by adding to the deficit and the national debt
I doubt it because serious economic analysis of Trump tax effect, including M2, has yet to be produced. At least, not that I can find.
Success of tax policy is measured in federal revenue, not rate. Does a 40% rate equal greater revenue than a 30% rate? The answer resides in the denominator. It consistently shocks posters like BamaAtl here (and apparently you too) that 10% of $1000 actually equates to more money than 50% of $100.
Ultimately, fiscal solvency in normal terms is about revenue, not rate. It is about increasing the private:government spending ratio. Not the reverse!
So, this administration has three interrelated goals: (a) increase employment, (b) increase economic output, and (c) increase the velocity of money.
Again, it will come as a shock to economically challenged libs that (a), (b), and (c) each result in INCREASED TAX REVENUE. While decreases in (a), (b), and (c) as we saw during obamanomics, DECREASE TAX REVENUE. In fact, one definitive way to decrease (a), (b), and (c) is to increase taxes to the point of impact upon them.
Obama threatened just that from the outset.
In 2012 he finally accomplished it.
As a result of obamanomics, the velocity of money (M2) decimated 6 decades of recorded lows. It cut through those lows like radioactive goo thru a reactor floor in a nuclear meltdown. But by golly, he did increase taxes. He soaked "the 1%". He soaked everyone else too. "Everyone else" just didn't realize they were patsies at the poker table.
Meanwhile, Obama increased spending. Obamacare and other spread-the-wealth-around efforts put us on track to generate record long-term deficits. Here's a rhetorical clue for our resident leftists . . . Hey Patsy, guess who deficit spending spreads the wealth around to?
Posted on 2/9/19 at 7:19 am to Kraut Dawg
The mind of a liberal is a dangerous thing. Hank actually want everyone to give the government more money to support their irresponsible spending.
Then, they repeat this nonsense at the end of every year. It’s insane:
Hank: oh no! A deficit due to gov spending; raise taxes.
Gov: Yay, let’s spend more!
One year later...
Hank: oh no! A deficit due to gov spending; raise taxes.
Gov: Yay, let’s spend more!
Repeat as needed for future generations of socialists.
Then, they repeat this nonsense at the end of every year. It’s insane:
Hank: oh no! A deficit due to gov spending; raise taxes.
Gov: Yay, let’s spend more!
One year later...
Hank: oh no! A deficit due to gov spending; raise taxes.
Gov: Yay, let’s spend more!
Repeat as needed for future generations of socialists.
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