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Signs the inflated real estate market is cooling
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:26 am
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:26 am
WSJ: chinese now a net seller; first time since 2008.
Chinese investors have been buying up a ton of property, generally at inflated cash prices. This has been a cause of the market boom in some sectors.
Home sales in SoCal crashing; prices expected to follow.
Main factors cited are an increase in interest rates and lack of new buyers, even as inventory is continuing to rise.
Chinese investors have been buying up a ton of property, generally at inflated cash prices. This has been a cause of the market boom in some sectors.
Home sales in SoCal crashing; prices expected to follow.
Main factors cited are an increase in interest rates and lack of new buyers, even as inventory is continuing to rise.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:32 am to cokebottleag
Chinese investors should be banned from buying residential property in America
I see it firsthand here in Cali
I think it’s unfair that they are able to move markers like this
I see it firsthand here in Cali
I think it’s unfair that they are able to move markers like this
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 11:36 am
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:32 am to cokebottleag
No mention of demand? Maybe people are not feeling the California dream anymore and moving elsewhere?
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:33 am to cokebottleag
I just signed a buyer for my house in GA a couple days ago.
Read about the SoCal situation this morning and I’m very glad I’m selling.
Read about the SoCal situation this morning and I’m very glad I’m selling.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:37 am to cokebottleag
Ugh I know, I have my home up for sale and am really hoping it goes before the bottom drops out. If so, its going to line up perfectly with my next purchase in 6-18 months.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:38 am to cokebottleag
I see it more as a correction, especially in SoCal. They were too high in pricing to begin with.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:38 am to cokebottleag
I’ve been concerned about this particular trend for a couple of years.
Hopefully the correction is relatively painless.
Hopefully the correction is relatively painless.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:42 am to cokebottleag
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Home sales in SoCal
Considering how many businesses are leaving Cali and how real estate prices in many areas have skyrocketed I'm not sure I would use this as a measuring stick for the entire country.
While new home sales are down (at least from the latest numbers I can find) it's still up for the year and continuing to trend upward.
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This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:44 am to cokebottleag
quote:I just heard the other day that wealthy folks that wear table cloths on their head and have more money than they know what to do with are also buying up real estate. Gas stations, homes, even property that nobody wants in the hood.
Chinese investors have been buying up a ton of property,
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:45 am to cokebottleag
A lot of people just getting started in my industry do their time in the Bay Area, enjoy the amenities there, then move out after a few years.
We used to joke about how the folks that are based there shouldn’t bother making close friends as they’ll all be somewhere else in a couple of years.
I don’t see the rental market there changing very much. In fact I think they need more housing supply.
Not sure what the issue is in SoCal.
We used to joke about how the folks that are based there shouldn’t bother making close friends as they’ll all be somewhere else in a couple of years.
I don’t see the rental market there changing very much. In fact I think they need more housing supply.
Not sure what the issue is in SoCal.
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 11:47 am
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:48 am to cajunangelle
quote:
I just heard the other day that wealthy folks that wear table cloths on their head and have more money than they know what to do with are also buying up real estate
Investors in the ME and China are buying a lot of properties in San Francisco, New York, DC, Toronto, Seattle, LA, Vancouver, etc.
It’s a relatively stable place to keep your money.
It also drives up housing prices for millenials.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:48 am to cokebottleag
California real estate values do not affect me where I live. California reaping what they sow. People moving out faster than they move in affecting them.
eta: Which downvoter is the real estate guru here? Because California is the harbinger of all things real estate value in the US.
eta: Which downvoter is the real estate guru here? Because California is the harbinger of all things real estate value in the US.
This post was edited on 7/26/18 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:49 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
If I recall correctly, ultra progressive New Zealand just banned foreign purchase of residential property.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:50 am to cokebottleag
As long as home prices in Atlanta keep rising I'm cool.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:54 am to dewster
The really unique thing that most people completely lose track of is the previous "mortgage meltdown." The ancillary market correction in home prices wasn't really felt on Main Street. In major metropolitan areas like Miami, SoCal, etc you saw bigtime corrections.
But in Louisiana-and the majority of the nation-there wasn't widespread, massive, large-scale evaporation of homeowner equity. Historically a single-family residence will appreciate 3-5% a year during an average economic environment.
Sometimes a little less if things are bad. Sometimes a little more if things are good. The wild volatility only occurs in bubble markets which are major metro areas. The issue is that millions of people live in these markets and think that this is reality across the nation. When in reality the media that caters to these major markets is really only fueling a localized narrative that doesn't apply to the nation as a whole.
Sure I can remember seeing oceanfront condos that were unfinished on the inside being advertised for $75K apiece in Destin a decade or so ago. But again, that's localized, anecdotal evidence restricted to a specific market.
When we're talking about SoCal, there were doublewides on tiny pieces of land selling for multi-six-figure amounts almost 15 years ago. I'm not prepared to say we are about to have another real estate correction anytime soon...and even if we do, I doubt it is as deep and damaging as big-city/major-media-market media coverage will suggest.
But in Louisiana-and the majority of the nation-there wasn't widespread, massive, large-scale evaporation of homeowner equity. Historically a single-family residence will appreciate 3-5% a year during an average economic environment.
Sometimes a little less if things are bad. Sometimes a little more if things are good. The wild volatility only occurs in bubble markets which are major metro areas. The issue is that millions of people live in these markets and think that this is reality across the nation. When in reality the media that caters to these major markets is really only fueling a localized narrative that doesn't apply to the nation as a whole.
Sure I can remember seeing oceanfront condos that were unfinished on the inside being advertised for $75K apiece in Destin a decade or so ago. But again, that's localized, anecdotal evidence restricted to a specific market.
When we're talking about SoCal, there were doublewides on tiny pieces of land selling for multi-six-figure amounts almost 15 years ago. I'm not prepared to say we are about to have another real estate correction anytime soon...and even if we do, I doubt it is as deep and damaging as big-city/major-media-market media coverage will suggest.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:04 pm to cokebottleag
quote:It's patchy. Manhattan, Seattle, SanFrancisco markets are way out. Other areas, not so much. Plenty of squares on the checkerboard have remained relatively flat over 15yrs. Others like Detroit are down.
the inflated real estate market
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:33 pm to cokebottleag
I wish it would correct itself some. I bought my house in 1999 (under $200K) and I'm now paying taxes on north of $400K, no way it's worth that.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:35 pm to Barneyrb
quote:Well doubling it's value in 19 years would mean it would need to increase its value about 3.7% annually. That's not an exteme increase.
I wish it would correct itself some. I bought my house in 1999 (under $200K) and I'm now paying taxes on north of $400K, no way it's worth that.
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:36 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
I see it firsthand here in Cali
Me too. I'm going to sell next year and get the heck out of here. Home prices are ridiculous.
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:37 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
That's no an exteme increase.
It's really no an eteme increase is it?
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