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Should we throw people in prison for Russiagate?
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:30 am
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:30 am
Kind of tl;dr, but the Cliffs Notes version is throwing nickel dimer charges at guys like Comey won't enact change. DJT should have tried to gut or overhaul the system, but he is just turbocharging it.
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Well, I’m not usually in the habit of proposing “solutions,” because sometimes there just aren’t any, but even so, I’d have thought a no-brainer would’ve been to establish some kind of big-league Congressional inquiry, modeled on the landmark Church Committee of the mid-1970s — which despite its imperfections, did unearth a great deal of hitherto hidden information about the dark inner-workings of the Security State complex, which till then had been cloaked in almost impenetrable secrecy since it was regrettably created after WWII.
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Maybe because Donald Trump has no interest in actually curbing the powers of the “Deep State.” His singular grievance has only ever been that those powers were once marshaled to his own detriment, and yes, he was often substantively correct in his complaints. But now, in Term Two, he’s got thoroughly consolidated control of the Executive Branch. No longer are there any bureaucratic holdovers maneuvering against him, as in the First Term, hiding away in their little ideological silos to plot and connive. Indeed, Trump has now comprehensively imposed his own ideology on the Security State structures, and we all know the main feature of Trump’s ideology is personal allegiance to him. That being the case, he’s all in favor of exerting audacious state power, so long as it serves his own interests — rather than getting him caught up in another open-ended Special Counsel fiasco, as bedeviled him the last time both politically and practically, having constricted his latitude to govern. No such nuisance bedevils him in 2026. Russiagate? Schmussagate.
Look no further than his current unbridled enthusiasm for renewing FISA, the very warrantless surveillance law once notoriously used against him in 2016! Pay no mind — that’s all ancient history in Trump 2.0. (He actually supported FISA renewal in his first term too, when the contradictions were even more pronounced.) And while he continues to superficially grouse about FISA here and there, the kicker came during the 2024 campaign season, when he and “MAGA Mike” Johnson huddled at Mar-a-Lago and jointly endorsed that year’s FISA renewal package, because, as Trump would explain, he was ahead in the polls! And accordingly, he would soon be the one exercising the relevant powers again, and doing with them as he pleased — so why get rid of them now? That’d just be shooting himself in the foot. President Donald J. Trump is many things, but he’s never been somebody who seems particularly inclined to diminish his own power.
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So there you have it — the key legal architecture underpinning Russiagate is still in effect, today and for the foreseeable future, thanks to the boisterous personal advocacy of Trump, who now claims it’s “desperately needed” for his “little excursion” in Iran:
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For this and other reasons, expecting some Revelatory Russiagate Reckoning through the ad hoc deployment of vindictive law enforcement power — it’s just pure folly. It solves none of the underlying political problems that caused Russiagate in the first place, such as the semi-autonomous ability of Security State agents to meddle in domestic political events. It does drastically accelerate the trend of American political conflict giving way to tit-for-tat prosecutorial warfare, whereby the conflicts are adjudicated not by standard political means, but through the criminal justice system — an absolutely horrible venue for adjudicating political conflict. And yes, I say this as someone who was loudly critical of all four Trump prosecutions when he was out of office. Go check the record if you want. So I’m well aware that this trend I’m bemoaning was likewise accelerated by retributive Democrat zeal against Trump. But that doesn’t mean I’m suddenly going to start celebrating another great leap into Mutually Assured Destruction, just because it’s Trump’s turn again to punish his rivals. The whole dynamic is woeful. It corrodes the larger political culture in a very foundational way, and sends us hurtling into Banana Republic territory even faster than we already were. The unhinged reaction to Trump by blithering liberals and their Security State companions was a sure sign of Banana Republic degeneration over a decade ago. Trump pouring another gigantic can of fuel on the fire is not something to be welcomed for its own sake, or because it activates some nerve in your cranium that chemically induces you to crave carceral punishment for people you dislike. (Although if you’re just a pure partisan simpleton, I can see why your lizard-brain would be lighting up at the thought.)
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:36 am to Bunk Moreland
Yes, starting with Jug Ears.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:39 am to Bunk Moreland
Russiagate was to interfere with an election and eventually have Trump's administration rendered ineffective. So yes, lock them up. If you don't, it will just embolden them to do it again.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:42 am to Bunk Moreland
Yes as well as anyone on here who believed and continues to believe that nonsense. Looking at you vor and soyboy
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:42 am to Bunk Moreland
They should be made to fear rope.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:44 am to Bunk Moreland
Anyone who knew the whole thing was nothing more the fake opposition research meant to smear the campaign should be in jail. They used the Federal government first to smear a campaign, then to weaken or destroy a sitting President.
This is exponentially worse than Watergate but you can't get any of or local liberals to admit it. And unlike Watergate, in this instance the majority of the mainstream media was 100% complicit. Maybe 100% didn't know it was fake but some did and still went out and reported every single rumor as fact.
Trump was right to call them fake news. The moment CNN had a headline about a hooker in Thailand with details to spill on Trump, journalistic integrity was dead.
They should all be in jail for an attempted non-violent coup.
This is exponentially worse than Watergate but you can't get any of or local liberals to admit it. And unlike Watergate, in this instance the majority of the mainstream media was 100% complicit. Maybe 100% didn't know it was fake but some did and still went out and reported every single rumor as fact.
Trump was right to call them fake news. The moment CNN had a headline about a hooker in Thailand with details to spill on Trump, journalistic integrity was dead.
They should all be in jail for an attempted non-violent coup.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:45 am to Bunk Moreland
Russia gate was an attempted legal coup. So yes, absolutely throw those frickers in jail and prosecute to the fullest.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:47 am to Bunk Moreland
absolutely not
the penalty for treason is death, not prison
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the penalty for treason is death, not prison
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:49 am to Bunk Moreland
Justice for criminals and trying to clean up the corrupt political system are two different things. Although, seeking justice for corrupt officials can certainly be considered part of thr overall process.
You'll figure out who the bad guys are one day, bunk. Good luck.
You'll figure out who the bad guys are one day, bunk. Good luck.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:49 am to Bunk Moreland
Yes but it could start a civil war from the radical left and the dependent class.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:52 am to Bunk Moreland
Put them in prison for a short stay then spread rumors on the inside that they’re child molesters (most probably are anyway).
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:55 am to Bunk Moreland
The guy’s dumbassed argument is that a complete misuse of the Justice system is a political problem.
That’s like saying drug abuse is primarily a financial problem.
It’s most likely a backend justification for Trump to not actually get justice with regards to Russiagate.
That’s like saying drug abuse is primarily a financial problem.
It’s most likely a backend justification for Trump to not actually get justice with regards to Russiagate.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:10 am to Bunk Moreland
Screw what your personal views on Donald Trump are, if only for the reason of abusing the power of government for personal and political means and intentionally ruining the lives of so many . The issuing of four FISA warrants alone, based on the Steele dossier, which was proven fake, that alone should have severe consequences. Even if not jail, there should be people stripped of their power & pension. .
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:12 am to Bunk Moreland
You’ll have to prove it first. There’s a reason most of these MAGA fantasies fall apart once they’re formalized into the court system. An adversarial traversal of evidence in front of a neutral magistrate insulated from political pressure is much different than a 5,000 word screed from Catturd posted here and everyone circle jerking until collective completion.
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:16 am to Bunk Moreland
The first problem you have is that there is no “Russiagate” beyond what exists in your mind…
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:20 am to Bunk Moreland
Attempting to use the Justice Department to have a duly elected President from office base on false charges should be considered treason via attempting to "give aid and comfort" to all enemies of our country by sowing disarray and chaos in the Executive branch to such a high degree and solely for the sake of political gamesmanship.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:21 am to VOR
lol. Look at this dumb lying fig.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:28 am to the808bass
His transition to full leftist has been complete for a while.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:33 am to Bunk Moreland
YES.
WITHOUT QUESTION
JUSTICE IS REQUIRED AND NECESSARY

WITHOUT QUESTION
JUSTICE IS REQUIRED AND NECESSARY
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