Started By
Message

Should we throw people in prison for Russiagate?

Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:30 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68114 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:30 am
Kind of tl;dr, but the Cliffs Notes version is throwing nickel dimer charges at guys like Comey won't enact change. DJT should have tried to gut or overhaul the system, but he is just turbocharging it.
quote:

Well, I’m not usually in the habit of proposing “solutions,” because sometimes there just aren’t any, but even so, I’d have thought a no-brainer would’ve been to establish some kind of big-league Congressional inquiry, modeled on the landmark Church Committee of the mid-1970s — which despite its imperfections, did unearth a great deal of hitherto hidden information about the dark inner-workings of the Security State complex, which till then had been cloaked in almost impenetrable secrecy since it was regrettably created after WWII.

quote:

Maybe because Donald Trump has no interest in actually curbing the powers of the “Deep State.” His singular grievance has only ever been that those powers were once marshaled to his own detriment, and yes, he was often substantively correct in his complaints. But now, in Term Two, he’s got thoroughly consolidated control of the Executive Branch. No longer are there any bureaucratic holdovers maneuvering against him, as in the First Term, hiding away in their little ideological silos to plot and connive. Indeed, Trump has now comprehensively imposed his own ideology on the Security State structures, and we all know the main feature of Trump’s ideology is personal allegiance to him. That being the case, he’s all in favor of exerting audacious state power, so long as it serves his own interests — rather than getting him caught up in another open-ended Special Counsel fiasco, as bedeviled him the last time both politically and practically, having constricted his latitude to govern. No such nuisance bedevils him in 2026. Russiagate? Schmussagate.

Look no further than his current unbridled enthusiasm for renewing FISA, the very warrantless surveillance law once notoriously used against him in 2016! Pay no mind — that’s all ancient history in Trump 2.0. (He actually supported FISA renewal in his first term too, when the contradictions were even more pronounced.) And while he continues to superficially grouse about FISA here and there, the kicker came during the 2024 campaign season, when he and “MAGA Mike” Johnson huddled at Mar-a-Lago and jointly endorsed that year’s FISA renewal package, because, as Trump would explain, he was ahead in the polls! And accordingly, he would soon be the one exercising the relevant powers again, and doing with them as he pleased — so why get rid of them now? That’d just be shooting himself in the foot. President Donald J. Trump is many things, but he’s never been somebody who seems particularly inclined to diminish his own power.

quote:

So there you have it — the key legal architecture underpinning Russiagate is still in effect, today and for the foreseeable future, thanks to the boisterous personal advocacy of Trump, who now claims it’s “desperately needed” for his “little excursion” in Iran:
>


quote:

For this and other reasons, expecting some Revelatory Russiagate Reckoning through the ad hoc deployment of vindictive law enforcement power — it’s just pure folly. It solves none of the underlying political problems that caused Russiagate in the first place, such as the semi-autonomous ability of Security State agents to meddle in domestic political events. It does drastically accelerate the trend of American political conflict giving way to tit-for-tat prosecutorial warfare, whereby the conflicts are adjudicated not by standard political means, but through the criminal justice system — an absolutely horrible venue for adjudicating political conflict. And yes, I say this as someone who was loudly critical of all four Trump prosecutions when he was out of office. Go check the record if you want. So I’m well aware that this trend I’m bemoaning was likewise accelerated by retributive Democrat zeal against Trump. But that doesn’t mean I’m suddenly going to start celebrating another great leap into Mutually Assured Destruction, just because it’s Trump’s turn again to punish his rivals. The whole dynamic is woeful. It corrodes the larger political culture in a very foundational way, and sends us hurtling into Banana Republic territory even faster than we already were. The unhinged reaction to Trump by blithering liberals and their Security State companions was a sure sign of Banana Republic degeneration over a decade ago. Trump pouring another gigantic can of fuel on the fire is not something to be welcomed for its own sake, or because it activates some nerve in your cranium that chemically induces you to crave carceral punishment for people you dislike. (Although if you’re just a pure partisan simpleton, I can see why your lizard-brain would be lighting up at the thought.)

LINK
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
33469 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:36 am to
Yes, starting with Jug Ears.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
13230 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:39 am to
Russiagate was to interfere with an election and eventually have Trump's administration rendered ineffective. So yes, lock them up. If you don't, it will just embolden them to do it again.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33241 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:42 am to
Yes as well as anyone on here who believed and continues to believe that nonsense. Looking at you vor and soyboy
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
4067 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:42 am to
They should be made to fear rope.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41494 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:44 am to
Anyone who knew the whole thing was nothing more the fake opposition research meant to smear the campaign should be in jail. They used the Federal government first to smear a campaign, then to weaken or destroy a sitting President.

This is exponentially worse than Watergate but you can't get any of or local liberals to admit it. And unlike Watergate, in this instance the majority of the mainstream media was 100% complicit. Maybe 100% didn't know it was fake but some did and still went out and reported every single rumor as fact.

Trump was right to call them fake news. The moment CNN had a headline about a hooker in Thailand with details to spill on Trump, journalistic integrity was dead.

They should all be in jail for an attempted non-violent coup.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3177 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:45 am to
Russia gate was an attempted legal coup. So yes, absolutely throw those frickers in jail and prosecute to the fullest.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
4960 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:47 am to
absolutely not






the penalty for treason is death, not prison


.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49652 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:49 am to
Justice for criminals and trying to clean up the corrupt political system are two different things. Although, seeking justice for corrupt officials can certainly be considered part of thr overall process.

You'll figure out who the bad guys are one day, bunk. Good luck.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34920 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:49 am to
Yes but it could start a civil war from the radical left and the dependent class.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22558 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:52 am to
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17589 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:52 am to
Put them in prison for a short stay then spread rumors on the inside that they’re child molesters (most probably are anyway).
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128713 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:55 am to
The guy’s dumbassed argument is that a complete misuse of the Justice system is a political problem.

That’s like saying drug abuse is primarily a financial problem.

It’s most likely a backend justification for Trump to not actually get justice with regards to Russiagate.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
46835 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:10 am to
Screw what your personal views on Donald Trump are, if only for the reason of abusing the power of government for personal and political means and intentionally ruining the lives of so many . The issuing of four FISA warrants alone, based on the Steele dossier, which was proven fake, that alone should have severe consequences. Even if not jail, there should be people stripped of their power & pension. .
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85488 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:12 am to
You’ll have to prove it first. There’s a reason most of these MAGA fantasies fall apart once they’re formalized into the court system. An adversarial traversal of evidence in front of a neutral magistrate insulated from political pressure is much different than a 5,000 word screed from Catturd posted here and everyone circle jerking until collective completion.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 10:13 am
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68768 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:16 am to
The first problem you have is that there is no “Russiagate” beyond what exists in your mind…
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59118 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:20 am to
Attempting to use the Justice Department to have a duly elected President from office base on false charges should be considered treason via attempting to "give aid and comfort" to all enemies of our country by sowing disarray and chaos in the Executive branch to such a high degree and solely for the sake of political gamesmanship.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128713 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:21 am to
lol. Look at this dumb lying fig.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157548 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:28 am to
His transition to full leftist has been complete for a while.
Posted by Da #1 Stunna
985
Member since Oct 2012
2074 posts
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:33 am to
YES.

WITHOUT QUESTION

JUSTICE IS REQUIRED AND NECESSARY

first pageprev pagePage 1 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram