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re: Should we Eliminate the Agricultural Tax Exemption
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:09 pm to imjustafatkid
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:09 pm to imjustafatkid
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Yes it is. This guy wants to remove the exemption. I'm saying his solution is incorrect. The solution is to give the exemption to everyone.
I'm fine with that as long as you are o.k. with forgoing whatever that tax was paying for. Looks like in Florida that might be mainly schools, roads and other infrastructure.
You good with that?
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:11 pm to billjamin
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These threads are always fun for me because i get to watch people support tax subsidization for things they like but then later argue against it for things they don't like.
I agree with you. This is the same as the crawfish farmer saying they need a subsidy because it supports local farms. NOBODY should ever get a subsidy or bailout. No American government should be involved in any business or building favor for one business or land use over another. Free markets should be absolute.
I believe the government bailout of businesses and the handouts to nearly everyone during Covid was to lay the groundwork for EVERYONE to own blame for our demise due to our debt, entitlement mentality, and disgustingly bloated government.
Nearly the whole developed world is living multiple themes of Atlas Shrugged in real time. What we have done to this country is truly disgraceful.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:33 pm to FIREAWAY
Property should never be taxed. Tax on property means you essentially rent your property from the government and actually own nothing. Property taxes should be eliminated altogether.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:54 pm to ChEgrad
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Property should never be taxed. Tax on property means you essentially rent your property from the government and actually own nothing. Property taxes should be eliminated altogether.
I agree with that, too.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:57 pm to FIREAWAY
The stupidity of so many people in this world is staggering.
Right after politicians on the shite list is developers.
You want more available housing? Put tax incentives in place for brownfield construction project and redevelop the millions of dilapidated homes and rundown areas. Besides our oil, our arable land is one of our biggest asset in being the world power.
The liberal idiots are busy trying to destroy it while banning fossil fuels at the same time.
Right after politicians on the shite list is developers.
You want more available housing? Put tax incentives in place for brownfield construction project and redevelop the millions of dilapidated homes and rundown areas. Besides our oil, our arable land is one of our biggest asset in being the world power.
The liberal idiots are busy trying to destroy it while banning fossil fuels at the same time.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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The only problem with that is farmers already own the land.
And they can afford it only via government subsidy (aka Leftism)
What an asinine statement.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:40 am to ChEgrad
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Property should never be taxed. Tax on property means you essentially rent your property from the government and actually own nothing. Property taxes should be eliminated altogether.
Agreed 1000%. OP clearly doesn't understand the volume of soil it takes to just grow hay that will support cattle, much less any other crop that is harvested for food.
SFP's statement of it being a leftist policy like it's a handout is mentally disabled thinking, as well. Hey, how about just don't look for any and every reason to tax someone then act like it's doing them a favor to give an exemption. Dumbasses. "They can only afford it because of handouts!" What a shitbag. We could afford it because we paid cash for the farm and ranch land. Built infrastructure on it. Have equipment to maintain it. It isn't the government's generosity that says it's our land because they so graciously give us an ag exemption.
I feed and water those cows. I keep the coyotes away from calves. I give them medicine when they're sick. That's my hard-earned money, blood, and sweat invested in the property. What a leach on society I am because I own land and actually work a ranch with my family, unlike dipshit liberals that just suck the life out of everything they touch.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 12:45 am
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:03 am to FIREAWAY
Should we quit feeding feggut traitors?
Bring your sessy little vagene to New Roads Sonic and repeat what you just said.
Bring your sessy little vagene to New Roads Sonic and repeat what you just said.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:08 am to FIREAWAY
Move to another country you commie pussy.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:44 am to wackatimesthree
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I'm fine with that as long as you are o.k. with forgoing whatever that tax was paying for. Looks like in Florida that might be mainly schools, roads and other infrastructure.
You good with that?
Oh for sure 100%. We don't need the government to do any of those things.
That being said, I'm not advocating for eliminating all taxes. Just income and property taxes. And estate taxes. And gift taxes. And any other type of tax on what you own or how you earn money.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 4:46 am
Posted on 4/4/24 at 6:12 am to ChEgrad
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Property should never be taxed. Tax on property means you essentially rent your property from the government and actually own nothing. Property taxes should be eliminated altogether.
Yep. Recurring tax on property ownership is theft. Stop acting like the government taxing you less because you use the land to benefit others is some kind of altruism.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 6:32 am to TerryDawg03
A lack of a specific type of housing in certain highly desirable areas is not a housing shortage.
If I can’t buy a Tesla in my town, that’s not a car shortage.
Yes, there are small sections of the country where certain types of housing are in high demand and hard to get.
That doesn’t mean there is a housing shortage.
If I can’t buy a Tesla in my town, that’s not a car shortage.
Yes, there are small sections of the country where certain types of housing are in high demand and hard to get.
That doesn’t mean there is a housing shortage.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 6:54 am to FIREAWAY
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If we eliminate the agricultural tax exemption, it would cause farmers to either sell their land or pay the true cost of the tax in their county. Overall I think this would benefit the majority of people instead of a small group of wealthy land-owning farmers.
If they actively farm the land for major agricultural use, the exemption stays, if they just leave the fields empty as grass, the no exemptions.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 6:55 am to Ray Ray Rodman
Then you realize they work all the time. During harvest it’s 16+ hr days until it’s done. Sometimes spending thousands of $$$ per acre to get slightly more thousands of dollars per acre. There are huge costs involved.
Calving season? Your arse is up at all hours making sure your girls are doing well. Dairy operators milk twice a day and that isn’t between the hours of 9-5.
I’m all for removing subsidies. Operations will figure it out. The system itself is the problem. There is a grassroot movement in changing. It’s slow, as farmers traditionally hate change.
Calving season? Your arse is up at all hours making sure your girls are doing well. Dairy operators milk twice a day and that isn’t between the hours of 9-5.
I’m all for removing subsidies. Operations will figure it out. The system itself is the problem. There is a grassroot movement in changing. It’s slow, as farmers traditionally hate change.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:07 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Yes, there are small sections of the country where certain types of housing are in high demand and hard to get.
That doesn’t mean there is a housing shortage.
This is happening nationwide.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:19 am to FIREAWAY
quote:Why not just arrest the land owners, steal their private property, and disseminate it among the people who want it? Makes sense right?
If we eliminate the agricultural tax exemption, it would cause farmers to either sell their land or pay the true cost of the tax in their county. Overall I think this would benefit the majority of people instead of a small group of wealthy land-owning farmers.
Imagine being so jealous of someone else's property that you are willing to attack them financially in order to take that away from them.
Dude, seriously, frick you.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:25 am to FIREAWAY
We would if we wanted a free market but we don't want free markets especially around food.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:31 am to oklahogjr
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We would if we wanted a free market but we don't want free markets especially around food.
If you want to summarize it, this is probably the best way.
But they won't admit this is a rejection of the free market.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:48 am to oklahogjr
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We would if we wanted a free market but we don't want free markets especially around food.
Ok. So do “we” want to curtail government involvement to move more into the free market?
Do “we” wanna neuter the EPA? Throw out these electric car and ridiculous fuel standards to get some reliable cars on the market again? Sell what the customers want? Let business produce their products the way they see fit to compete?
Do “we” want to neuter the Department of Labor? Let the market decide wages and conditions?
Do “we” wanna neuter the entitlements that prop up some areas of the economy.. but not others?
Because I’m ridin with that. You in?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:11 am to CleverUserName
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Because I’m ridin with that. You in?
100%
Free markets were the rocket fuel for us to surpass everyone else economically.
Our policies are more socialist/fascist at the moment. We still maintain high living standards because we are coasting on the fumes of the greatness of our once-free markets. As I’ve said before; the only explanation of current policy is that our politicians are bought by foreign interests.
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