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re: Should we Eliminate the Agricultural Tax Exemption
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:09 pm to El Segundo Guy
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:09 pm to El Segundo Guy
They get free irrigation from the Red. It actually belongs to Oklahoma, not Texas. Oklahoma owns to the southern Bank of the Red for some damn reason.
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Then why is everyone else paying higher taxes?
Well hell son…. Let’s get the income tax brackets down too. Why am I paying ES tax payments when people are getting “”earned”” income tax credits?
Welfare?? You don’t work. You don’t eat. End that subsidy.
Medicaid?? Sheeeeeet. Better get you a savings account for medical purposes. Other people are paying insurance.
Section 8??? I pay full price for a mortgage. Drop that crap too.
Also.. I want the same rate back on my social security than I’ve made in my other investments.
If you wanna dive in.. let’s dive in. I’d rather live in that world in my place in life. I’ll pay more for food if I can live in a 10 percent tax bracket. Bet your arse.
You wanna go back to 1870’s level of government support and taxation? Lead the way fella. I’ll carry the banner two steps behind you.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:12 pm to El Segundo Guy
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Ag land in Oklahoma is capped at a 2% increase year to year. It's 5% for everything else
Why is that ok?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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just trying to get them to admit this fact.
No. You are obsessed with yourself. That is what it boils down to.
You think your supposedly law degree entitles you to be smarter than a blue collar worker. It does not. Get over yourself.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:13 pm to CleverUserName
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They can’t build reservoirs in CA to increase the supply of drinking water because of some bug or bird..
But let’s kill more bees, bugs, and birds by taking away habitat and farmland to build some hipsters houses!!
While we are at it… let’s kill some eagles and hawks with some wind turbines!!
It's funny how this works.
If it's something they want there is zero problem.
Want a small copper/silver mine in uninhabited northern WI? Oh hell no!
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:20 pm to FIREAWAY
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In major populated states such as Florida, there is a shortage of housing
Remove every single illegal immigrant from these states and then tell me how that housing shortage looks. Next, remove the percentage of the populace who are capable of working, but choose not to, and instead rely on handouts.
Do that, and we'll have a serious conversation. Until then, leave agriculture land and legitimate farmers the hell out of it.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:24 pm to FIREAWAY
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The only problem with that is farmers already own the land.
Gosh damn you are stupid.
Go step outside and get a break from what the hell ever you are on.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You don't get to proclaim that you are the real "less government and free trade" supporter when you're promoting that treatment for only one special group. That means the market is still disrupted, but you're promoting crony capitalism (which is Leftism).
You have no idea the costs of production and the regulations imposed by government. Take the Carter administration out of the equation and I might agree with you, but it’s too far gone now.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:29 pm to loogaroo
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You have no idea the costs of production and the regulations imposed by government. Take the Carter administration out of the equation and I might agree with you, but it’s too far gone now.
SFP is lost. Too far gone. He's mad with the world because of something that happened years ago.
Don't question him. He has a law degree, so he knows more than anyone who doesn't.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:39 pm to loogaroo
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You have no idea the costs of production and the regulations imposed by government.
Are farmers the only industry that experiences this?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:41 pm to chili pup
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SFP is lost. Too far gone.
Wait what?
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He's mad with the world because of something that happened years ago.
...no.
I just find it funny when people respond to a thread promoting more of a free market by proclaiming it's leftism, while defending leftism and claiming they support the free market.
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Don't question him. He has a law degree
The only person who has brought this up ITT is you.
No argument from authority from this guy.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Are farmers the only industry that experiences this?
You know the answer to that question.
I’ll leave you with this…Our grain production is national security.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I just find it funny when people respond to a thread promoting more of a free market by proclaiming it's leftism, while defending leftism and claiming they support the free market.
Leftism created the problem.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:56 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:It is to leftists.
Not being taxed is not a subsidy.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Cool. This thread is about a tax exemption, which is special treatment, aka market interference aka Leftism.
A tax exemption is a revision back to the default of not being taxed. The answer to "unfair" tax exemptions is not to remove the exemption, but to open the exemption to everyone.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:17 pm to FIREAWAY
What makes you have the right to force people to sell land against their will? Unbelievable!
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:19 pm to imjustafatkid
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A tax exemption is a revision back to the default of not being taxed.
Only if that exemption is applied to everyone.
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but to open the exemption to everyone.
This thread is not about that.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Do any of you idiot leftists ever, ever think about the consequences of your idiotic policies?
It is a good gotcha thread for exposing people who want Leftist economics as long as it benefits them or a group they want to be given special treatment.
Drug legalization, defund the police, open borders, raising minimum wages to $20/hr?
Do you know how many farmers would go bankrupt or be forced to sell their land if they were not exempted from high property taxes?
Yeah, that’s all we need is to have less farmers and be dependent on imports for our food.
fricking idiots.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:22 pm to FIREAWAY
Sounds like a great idea turn the farms that produce our food into housing with more mouths to feed . What could go wrong ? How about we stop welfare , use the ghettos for new houses are the people on welfare stop reproducing because they no longer get paid to have a ton of kids they can’t afford .
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:No dumbass, the only way farming and ranching is viable is without excess taxation, which you are in favor of.
So your argument is the only way they're economically viable is via government subsidy and crony capitalism?
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