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re: Should military service be compulsory? Ben Shapiro laments U.S. military participation.

Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:34 am to
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:34 am to
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I hope DW collapses. I thought he might chill out a bit on the Israel first crap for optics, but I guess it’s his entire being.


I think they're way more vulnerable with Trump in power. We had to appreciate them during the dark days of 2021 - 2024 but now? frick them.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:35 am to
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It might be a little difficult when 20% of the population don't have the IQ to meet the entrance requirements, and then you have the physical requirements. I'd expect at least 50% of current 18 year old men would be excluded on those two things alone.


You can make them janitors that work at the National Guard. Not everyone should obviously be in combat, but they can make for good old worker bees behind the scenes.
Posted by mikesliveisacheater
Member since Nov 2009
1337 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:40 am to
So more people on the government tit. Wouldn't this undermine everything that DOGE is trying to do?

Plus people being forced to work somewhere usually give the absolute minimum amount of effort. Anyone that has ever had to work with an 18-24 year old that is only there because their mom made them get a job, knows that they are as useless as tits on a nun.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3439 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:43 am to
You know your side is getting bad as the nutty left when you regularly attack one of the biggest public conservative figures in the country
Posted by Marshhen
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Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:44 am to
Compulsory participation in its current form would not work; we shouldn’t force people to fight in wars (especially useless war). However, I believe that we should implement a compulsory service aspect for every American after high school or in lieu of high school. Too many aimless and unprepared kids going into the workforce. Some kids today need more drill Sargents and less woke teachers.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:48 am to
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So more people on the government tit. Wouldn't this undermine everything that DOGE is trying to do?

Plus people being forced to work somewhere usually give the absolute minimum amount of effort. Anyone that has ever had to work with an 18-24 year old that is only there because their mom made them get a job, knows that they are as useless as tits on a nun.


No this will be different. It will be really about establishing patriotism and hard work ethic in everyone. They’ll have the weekends off and still get to have some fun, but you should be taught your civic duties. It’s a way better use of our money than 90% of the shite we spend. I’d rather my money go to that than Harvard.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:53 am to

There should be some link between the right to vote and the obligation to serve.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:53 am to
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that's how they'd get everyone vaxed to the gills with all the Pfizer creations.


Probably one of the main reasons US participation is so low.
Posted by jivy26
Member since Nov 2008
2839 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:57 am to
No. If we had to fight wars at home, then sure.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 11:58 am to
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You know your side is getting bad as the nutty left when you regularly attack one of the biggest public conservative figures in the country


I did not attack Ben in this thread.
Posted by UncleLogger
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Member since Jan 2008
3095 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:03 pm to
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I do think we should do what Israel does


Start wars with all our neighbors and kick them out? I could use some of that ranch land south of the border. I’m sure we could manage to annex some of Mexico at our current military strength though.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
18908 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:03 pm to
We don't have the infrastructure in place for this and it would cost a fortune, not to mention it would be a terrible waste of time and resources.

I'm retired military.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:16 pm to
I would be okay with some degree of (soft) compulsory national service, but it certainly shouldn't be military.

Particularly since we are increasingly pricing out young/inexperienced employees, a period of compulsory service, perhaps in conservation, public works or something along those lines would also give those young folks a reference, a demonstrated period of performance to take into the job market.

Heck, I would even count going to trade school, for free, in a trade deemed both in need and a necessity for public infrastructure or whatever, if I was in charge. We would certainly get more plumbers, electricians, carpenters, etc. out of the deal, than folks who aren't, strictly speaking, college material.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7698 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:17 pm to
That's retarded.
Most would end up claiming military disability for bullshite.

Would bankrupt the country even faster.
Posted by 615tider
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Member since Oct 2012
3807 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:28 pm to
Little Bennie was more than welcome to join up and serve, I"m sure he could have talked terrorists to death.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:32 pm to
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Probably not a terrible requirement.


It’s a HORRIBLE idea. There are enough dumbasses in the ranks without making everyone serve.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13312 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:34 pm to
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It will be really about establishing patriotism and hard work ethic in everyone


So, FedGov acting in the role of parent again?
Posted by Leotiger725
Member since Jan 2021
871 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 1:10 pm to
Ben Shapiro works for Israel's Intelligence Agency.

Not sure if that counts as military service

You Israel simps are hopeless
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53668 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 3:54 pm to
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quote:compulsory

I'd rather not put all of our little Communists in fatigues and train them


Under the current military apparatus I would agree with your post but if you could get the military back to breaking shite and killing the enemy with no DEI considerations then compulsory military service for two years would help wash some of the Cultural Marxist tendencies from the young skulls full of mush
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18861 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 4:16 pm to
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Probably not a terrible requirement.



It would be an horrible requirement. So much trash in just who is volunteering and getting through MEPS as it is these days. Make it mandatory? Hell no.
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