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member12
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Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census at all? Or should they be counted as "undocumented"?

When we redistrict in 2021, should the decisions be made on where US citizens live or where all people live? If so, why?


Animal
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
Trick question. They should not be here to take place in the Census.


member12
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
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They should not be here to take place in the Census.



Well, a large portion of the Democratic party (a major US party) supports open borders. So illegal immigrants are here.


TeLeFaWx
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
They should not be counted at all.


Zach
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
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Or should they be counted as "undocumented"?


They should be counted as criminals. Then deport them after confiscating whatever stuff they have as retribution for their crime.


beerJeep
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
I smell a new 3/5ths comp coming into play.











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Animal
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
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Well, a large portion of the Democratic party (a major US party) supports open borders. So illegal immigrants are here.


Understood. If we address the base issue then your question becomes irrelevant. But, as you point out since they are here, I think they should be counted but not considered for the allocation of monies excepting those monies which would be used for deportation.


memphisplaya
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
Count them on the bus back to their country. If they came here legally then welcome and I think you are the best part of our country. If illegal... you have to go back.


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Dale51
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
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They should be counted as criminals. Then deport them after confiscating whatever stuff they have as retribution for their crime.



I'd let them keep their ponchos and sombreros.
To take those things would be cultural appropriation.


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HailToTheChiz
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
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Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census at all? Or should they be counted as "undocumented"?



Solution: Count them but dont credit them to the overall representatives


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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
They should be counted as illegals which means they should be counted in number but not towards more house reps, electoral votes, or federal funds.


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VoxDawg
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
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Trick question. They should not be here to take place in the Census.


This is the only correct answer.

The Founding Fathers never envisioned that half of the country would lose their goddamned minds to the point of willfully encouraging an invading army of foreign nationals to bleed the US Treasury dry.


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keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census at all?

its a census of US citizens, if you include non citizens of the USA then you have to count the entire world population.

its the most insane position ever spouted that non citizens should be counted

they are now moving on to include voting rights and full benefits for all non citizens as well


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UFMatt
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
The US census purpose is to count US citizens and one reason is for proper representation in congress.


TerryDawg03
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
US citizens only for representation and appropriation purposes.


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jrodLSUke
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
They should be counted as illegals, so that we can properly allocate resources to US citizens. Only US citizens should be considered when it comes to allocating tax monies, or representation in government.


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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
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Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census at all? Or should they be counted as "undocumented"?


They should be counted as non-citizens, possibly making an extra criteria for "illegal".
quote:

When we redistrict in 2021, should the decisions be made on where US citizens live or where all people live? If so, why?


Where US citizens live.

Why? Because one of the prime reasons for the census is to determine representation in the House as well as a basis for redistricting. As illegals cannot vote, taking their presence into account for apportionment is ridiculous.

I also think it runs afoul of the notations mentioned in the Section 2 of the 14th Amendment (which is expanded upon only by those changes brought about in the 19th and 26th Amendments).

quote:

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States,


Thus districts are carved out to represent citizens, not total population.


omegaman66
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
They should be counted as a statistic of illegals that were arrested by ICE while conducting the census!


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alphaandomega
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
Only if it gives us a list of people to deport.



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AggieHank86
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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?
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Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census at all?
Yes.
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If so, why?
The Constitution.
This post was edited on 6/12 at 2:37 pm


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