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Shocking Statistics out of England and Wales

Posted on 8/4/26 at 6:45 am
Posted by Monceau
Member since Dec 2024
111 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 6:45 am
I recently came across this podcast episode, and was shocked by a few aspects. For context, this is a podcast in which two people representing different sides of an issue come together to have a long-form discussion about their differences. The discussions always start with each side giving their best understanding of the other side’s view, which I appreciate.

While most of the episodes take on issues of faith, Episode 8 covered abortion in the UK. A few things:

(1) Unlike many of these discussions, this one was very respectful on both sides, which helps cut through the straw men and sleight of hand one often comes across in these discussions.

(2) The statistics were shocking to me. After some additional confirmatory research, it would appear each of these statements is true with respect to England and Wales (who report abortion statistics together):

"Based on current abortion rates, around one in three women in England and Wales are estimated to have at least one abortion by age 45."

"In 2023, about 32% of conceptions in England and Wales ended in abortion."

“In 2023, there were about 280,000 abortions among residents of England and Wales,” which was an all-time high.

(3) I was further shocked that the pro-choice advocate, unlike many pro-choice advocates, is more than happy to concede that an unborn baby is a human life as opposed to what many such advocates would prefer refer to as a “clump of cells” or something similar. Yet, despite that, she’s still okay with terminating its life (although she appears to have recently begun contemplating her stance more deeply).

(4) I also couldn’t help but notice amidst the ongoing migrant situation in the UK that rationale for large scale immigration often points to low birth rates and the need to increase population for economic reasons. Yet the English and Welsh are apparently now ending the lives of a third of future citizens who could help fill that void.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 7:08 am
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
4183 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:05 am to
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Yet, despite that, she’s still okay with terminating its life

Evil.

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Yet the English and Welsh are apparently now ending the lives of a third of future citizens who could help fill that void.

Almost feels coordinated...
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1917 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:36 am to
Now do America
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
8626 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:40 am to
Hardcore feminism, abortions, homosexuality, all anti-natural societal growth agendas brought to us by the Democrat Party. The Party of Devil. Straight evil.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
22089 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:00 am to
The woman taking the 'pro choice' position, Ann Furedi.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105045 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:03 am to
Looks like Dr Evil.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
8137 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:06 am to
I agree with pro choice. My choice is IWNHI. So no chance of impregnating that thing.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31723 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:28 am to
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"In 2023, about 32% of conceptions in England and Wales ended in abortion."


Do you know how many of these abortions were because the women were raped?

ETA: I don't know why anyone would down vote this question. It's not like there hasn't been rape gangs in the UK.
This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 8:42 am
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
22089 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:31 am to
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Do you know how many of these abortions were because the women were raped?

Sadly this is a very relevant point.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21922 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 9:17 am to
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Do you know how many of these abortions were because the women were raped?


The percentage is equivalent to a statistical rounding error.
Posted by Rex Feral
Somewhere near Athens
Member since Jan 2014
17075 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 9:21 am to
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Do you know how many of these abortions were because the women were raped?


immaterial
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17322 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 9:59 am to
They are probably aborting babies due to being raped by muslims.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57250 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 10:08 am to
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Do you know how many of these abortions were because the women were raped?

ETA: I don't know why anyone would down vote this question. It's not like there hasn't been rape gangs in the UK.

It’s safe to say that number is vanishingly small, like less than 1% of them.

The prevalence of rape gangs, in the American mind, is similar to the odd conception of America the World Cup fans had before they showed up here. They are a problem, because rape is horrible, but it’s not so prevalent that it is affecting the number of abortions.
Posted by RoyalBaby
South Central
Member since Jul 2013
2315 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:01 am to
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Looks like Dr Evil's cat.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
11416 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:06 am to
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“In 2023, there were about 280,000 abortions among residents of England and Wales,” which was an all-time high.


Most of the invaders are military aged men and if the birthrate has increased any at all it would be because of the thousands of RAPES. Of course the 2 year olds are not old enough to bear children but that doesn't stop them.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71018 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:24 am to
Just your friendly reminder that abortion is often caused by economic distress as much as social ills. For many young people who can barely survive on 2 incomes, a pregnancy is an economic death sentence. Banning abortion should be a priority from a moral standpoint, but that is not enough. We need to examine the social and economic context that makes abortion appealing to try and eliminate the draw. That way, you’re not simply transitioning abortion from a relatively “safe” legally regulated environment to an even less safe black market environment.
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